Why are people mad at Trump on Immigration?

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chuckwagon said:
Let me cut through the bullshit. White supremacists want to limit brown people coming into the US. This policy is an extremely effective method to accomplish this goal.

It is a human rights violation, but it is effective.

If you support it fuck you. Fuck you right in your stupid face. Give me a warning point, I don’t give a fuck I’m going to call you Nazi fuckers out.
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Haha yes, I am white and I am also a supremacist who doesn't want to see people waltz into his country like they own the place.

What are you talking about, bringing race into this? You do realize that other countries also deport for illegally immigrating, even though they have the same skin color? And why are you acting like everyone in the room discussing these topics all iron their KKK outfits daily?

You're also vague about what you said you were against supporting, but I'm going to assume that you were referring to the camps, correct me if I'm wrong. It's already been quite established that everyone in this discussion feels and understands that these kids don't need to or have to be seperated from their families. You've effectively had a massive breakout of mentally ill tendencies while everyone else in the room is calmly discussing and realizing new points in such a topic.

You haven't cut through the bullshit, you've just reiterated that you are, dare I say, Mr. TrueBlue himself.
 
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san7890 said:
Haha yes, I am white and I am also a supremacist who doesn't want to see people waltz into his country like they own the place.

What are you talking about, bringing race into this?
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Um, because this is targeting people crossing our southern border, you know the brown people. What about all the people waltzing in here from Canada? Do you know how many people enter the US illegally from Canada every year? Most people don't, they don't care. Because they are white.

san7890 said:
Haha yes, I am white and I am also a supremacist who doesn't want to see people waltz into his country like they own the place.
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They are trying to stop *legal* immigration. They are blocking ports of entry on the southern border. Places where people are supposed to be able to cross to request asylum. They are being blocked for weeks at a time, so they try to enter at another location to declare asylum. They are then arrested for illegal entry. They now have a criminal record and will never be eligible to legally enter the US ever again.

san7890 said:
And why are you acting like everyone in the room discussing these topics all iron their KKK outfits daily?
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LiterallyCody said:
Diversity is only good until they begin to breed you out of existence.
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This dude and Cream Tea might as well start reciting The Fourteen Words.

san7890 said:
You're also vague about what you said you were against supporting, but I'm going to assume that you were referring to the camps, correct me if I'm wrong. It's already been quite established that everyone in this discussion feels and understands that these kids don't need to or have to be seperated from their families. You've effectively had a massive breakout of mentally ill tendencies while everyone else in the room is calmly discussing and realizing new points in such a topic.
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This is just another prong in the Trump administration's attack against non-white people. The travel ban, ending DACA, refusing to call out white supremacists in Charlottesville.

But let's just look at immigration.

Immigrants, both legal and illegal are far less likely to commit crimes that native citizens. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...lly-commit-more-crime/?utm_term=.2a904b900827

"Immigration has an overall positive impact on economic growth in the United States and has small-to-no effects on wages and employment for native-born workers, according to a new report." http://time.com/4503313/immigration-wages-employment-economy-study/

The Trump administration is actively trying to decrease all immigration, legal and illegal. They are employing cruel methodologies to do so. There is no evidence that immigration increases crime, and there is evidence that immigration improves our economy. What other logical conclusion could be gleaned from these facts other than they do not want these people in our country for some reason?

san7890 said:
You're also vague about what you said you were against supporting, but I'm going to assume that you were referring to the camps, correct me if I'm wrong. It's already been quite established that everyone in this discussion feels and understands that these kids don't need to or have to be seperated from their families. You've effectively had a massive breakout of mentally ill tendencies while everyone else in the room is calmly discussing and realizing new points in such a topic.
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You are wrong. Not everyone in this discussion "feels and understands that these kids don't need to or have to be seperated(sic) from their families." There are people in this thread trying to defend it. Right out of the gate there is "but whatabout OBAMA!!!!1" and "If you didn't want to be treated like an animal, why did you cross the border illegally."

I am against supporting these racist Trump/Sessions policies.

san7890 said:
You haven't cut through the bullshit, you've just reiterated that you are, dare I say, Mr. TrueBlue himself.
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I don't even know WTF this means. Are you calling me a liberal? Like that is offensive? lol I prefer Democratic Socialist but whatever.
 
Cream Tea

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i already said i'm literally hitler for simply saying people shouldn't be crossing the border illegally no need to repeat yourself
 
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...b67019fcfe4_story.html?utm_term=.ea5f47c76508

"President Trump this week likened Hispanic immigrants to vermin. He warned that they would “pour into and infest our country.” And he defended his administration’s family separation policy by alleging that parents crossing the southern border with their children were poised to commit crime and murder.

For him, this language is not new.

Echoing the words and images of the white nationalist movement to dehumanize immigrants and inflame racial tensions has become a defining feature of Donald Trump’s presidency and of the Republican Party’s brand."
 
san7890

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chuckwagon said:
Um, because this is targeting people crossing our southern border, you know the brown people. What about all the people waltzing in here from Canada? Do you know how many people enter the US illegally from Canada every year? Most people don't, they don't care. Because they are white.



They are trying to stop *legal* immigration. They are blocking ports of entry on the southern border. Places where people are supposed to be able to cross to request asylum. They are being blocked for weeks at a time, so they try to enter at another location to declare asylum. They are then arrested for illegal entry. They now have a criminal record and will never be eligible to legally enter the US ever again.





This dude and Cream Tea might as well start reciting The Fourteen Words.



This is just another prong in the Trump administration's attack against non-white people. The travel ban, ending DACA, refusing to call out white supremacists in Charlottesville.

But let's just look at immigration.

Immigrants, both legal and illegal are far less likely to commit crimes that native citizens. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...lly-commit-more-crime/?utm_term=.2a904b900827

"Immigration has an overall positive impact on economic growth in the United States and has small-to-no effects on wages and employment for native-born workers, according to a new report." http://time.com/4503313/immigration-wages-employment-economy-study/

The Trump administration is actively trying to decrease all immigration, legal and illegal. They are employing cruel methodologies to do so. There is no evidence that immigration increases crime, and there is evidence that immigration improves our economy. What other logical conclusion could be gleaned from these facts other than they do not want these people in our country for some reason?



You are wrong. Not everyone in this discussion "feels and understands that these kids don't need to or have to be seperated(sic) from their families." There are people in this thread trying to defend it. Right out of the gate there is "but whatabout OBAMA!!!!1" and "If you didn't want to be treated like an animal, why did you cross the border illegally."

I am against supporting these racist Trump/Sessions policies.


I don't even know WTF this means. Are you calling me a liberal? Like that is offensive? lol I prefer Democratic Socialist but whatever.
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There we go. See, aren't things more agreeable when you actually use facts rather than busting in the door and start screeching at a tone deaf volume? I do believe you a lot more now that you've shown me where you get this logic and the statistics that show you said logic, meaning you have successfully seperated yourself from a latte drinking vegan who gets really knotted up on Twitter.
 
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I guess I really am Hitler, but hey. Let's ignore the fact that media loves to fake things, here's one example.
 
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LiterallyCody said:
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I guess I really am Hitler, but hey. Let's ignore the fact that media loves to fake things, here's one example.
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The media on both sides of the political spectrum likes to make things up, or push things to an extreme.

That's why sensible people don't get their news from a single news source, or a single political leaning.
 
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KinCryos

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haytil said:
I'm pretty sure that the US President is Trump, not Clinton, Bush, or Obama.

So I'm not sure why it matters what Clinton, Bush, or Obama did or thought. It seems to me the only relevant issue is what Trump is doing.

If something is wrong, it's wrong - whether it's been done before or not.
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you don't know who the previous 3 US presidents were, don't you?

in 1996, then-president Clinton put this into law. the next 2 presidents, Bush and Obama, did jack-shit about it.

suddenly, somebody actually does something about it and everyone gives him credit for starting it.

chuckwagon said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...b67019fcfe4_story.html?utm_term=.ea5f47c76508

"President Trump this week likened Hispanic immigrants to vermin. He warned that they would “pour into and infest our country.” And he defended his administration’s family separation policy by alleging that parents crossing the southern border with their children were poised to commit crime and murder.

For him, this language is not new.

Echoing the words and images of the white nationalist movement to dehumanize immigrants and inflame racial tensions has become a defining feature of Donald Trump’s presidency and of the Republican Party’s brand."
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the tweet makes it clear that he's talking primarily about the MS-13, a violent international gang that is on par with the Nazis (in fact, they're associated with the Sureños, who also has ties to the Aryan Brotherhood, due to them both being enemies of the Black Guerilla Family). hell, nearly the entirety of Mexico considers MS-13 to be vermin
 
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