Declined Admin App: Dave the Manly
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The reason wardens are able to kill their own guards is to dispose of freekillers. Bott wouldn't implement that if it was supposed to be against the rules.
Ah my bad, I didn't even know he implemented that. I retract that statement, I haven't played on Jailbreak in awhile because the lack of admins and the amount of freekilling has made it a bit unenjoyable for me
My apologies
SgtGiraffe
Legendary Skial King
because it matters what the general population and regs think just not as much as everyone thinks
SgtGiraffe
Legendary Skial King
you have a misplaced sense of justice telling your friend to break the rules multiple times to punish someone for breaking the rules isn't right i can only imagine what would happen if you become admin
You seem to be missing the point. I told a warden to utilize an anti-rulebreaking mechanism to punish a rulebreaker, as I could not do it myself and it was easier than taking a demo and didn't require any admins to take time out of their day to swing by and see it to take care of it. There's nothing hypocritical about that.
SHUT THE FUCK UP FAGGOTS, VIGGO FOR ADMIN 2013
+DAEV
I HAVE RESTED DISPASSIONATELY FOR THIS FATEFUL DAY, AND NOW, IT COMES TO FRUITION
LIGHT THE SIGNAL FIRES, FOR THE SON OF MAN HAS INDEED RETURNED
+DAEV
I HAVE RESTED DISPASSIONATELY FOR THIS FATEFUL DAY, AND NOW, IT COMES TO FRUITION
LIGHT THE SIGNAL FIRES, FOR THE SON OF MAN HAS INDEED RETURNED
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SgtGiraffe
Legendary Skial King
and he did for for A LOT of rounds one time would have sufficed but your butthurtness was so great you asked him to do it for over 10 rounds and he did it every time 2 for a guy who is all about punishing rule breakers you encourage rule breaking for your own personal revenge now that is the epitome of hypocrisy if you ask me
A warden killing a freekilling guard is not against the rules. If a guard freekills round after round after round, you can't blame someone for taking him out before he even starts. Most of the time, they did do that. I alerted the warden of the situation any time I noticed that a new guy was warden. Not every single round. You're really blowing things out of proportion.
SgtGiraffe
Legendary Skial King
that is a bullshit reason to kill someone if that was the case anyone can justify free killing i can kill all the prisoners and say "they were going to rebel so might as well kill them all now before they start" not only that he supposedly rdmed you for one round and one round only
SgtGiraffe
Legendary Skial King
its not but its something you can kill some one for like you can kill a free killing guard the moment he free kills not before and not for a prolonged amount of time
+1, Played jailbreak with him and obviously have seen him on the forums. Don't feel like coming up with a huge argument as to why he would be a good admin, because it would just get ignored and won't even matter in the decision for him being admin or not anyway
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Dave's app is Jailbreak in a nutshell.
I'm going to disregard most of what people said here when forming my opinion, seeing as it's an incident where other regulars were spamming (which is against the rules, and you got leeway because the admins know you) and Dave reacted accordingly, and not in an extreme way.
So, from what I know, Dave seems to be a fairly clear/level-headed guy. He carries himself well, and posts intelligently. He knows the major rules, follows them, acknowledges his faults and can accept criticism. I think him not losing his mind here in his app is a good sign, and with that I give my support.
+1 from me, and best of luck with everything.
I'm going to disregard most of what people said here when forming my opinion, seeing as it's an incident where other regulars were spamming (which is against the rules, and you got leeway because the admins know you) and Dave reacted accordingly, and not in an extreme way.
So, from what I know, Dave seems to be a fairly clear/level-headed guy. He carries himself well, and posts intelligently. He knows the major rules, follows them, acknowledges his faults and can accept criticism. I think him not losing his mind here in his app is a good sign, and with that I give my support.
+1 from me, and best of luck with everything.
I'll phrase this best I can, from my own observations and such.
As to the the whole chatspam binds about Dave and how he reacted to it, it's harassment. Granted it could be a joke and such cause you all know him from forums and not ill-hearted, but it could bother him. He's imfamous on skial as Blade said,
The person you depict youself as on forums isn't point to point exact as the way you are actually IRL. Ask anyone who's spoken with me on TS if I am as profound or on a "high horse" as I come off on forums. He has had a history, though most of you wouldn't know, as it was years ago. He was a dick and a troll and people didn't like him, he's not perfect, at all. You don't make judgements of a person by the way you see him write, you are just given impressions, an editted image of oneself. Johhny's thread http://www.skial.com/threads/friends.41372/ actually relates to this in a way.
EDIT: The part that relates to what I am saying in the OP's video.
Addressing the whole chatspam incident and how it was just fun. I don't know the whole story, nor do I want to deal with any more drama, but from what I see, it was spam. It could be a joke, but it was spam, it could be for 4-5minutes, but it was spam. Had you not been regs and been spamming some other bind not relating to Dave, chances are you would have been muted. The definition of "fun" is so twisted. It's fun to mess with a close friend, but not really of some random stranger. Don't say he's not a stranger, as you know NOTHING of him. The fact that you would have stopped had cylosis or Drum told you too, further attests to it. You do not have to be warned that you are breaking the rules, it is nice, but nothing states you must be warned. Many people on appeals argue that they were banned without warning, and people jump down their throats for not knowing the rules. You expected special treatment since you knew the admins and thought they would warn you if you went out of line, but it's not mandatory, and you lucked out. Don't get me wrong, I'm no different then you guys expected some special treatment for knowing admins, as anytime I try to join an admin on a server, albeit CiNiC, Rhi or even Cy, I half-jokingly tell them to kick someone afking so I can join immediately and not wait like other players do. I'm not entitled to it, but it almost feels like I am.
In closing, there were wrongs done on each side, but a single situation especially this small doesn't make or break an admin case. I believe gwor or chuck[EDIT: it was extaa not either of these http://www.skial.com/threads/extaas-application.18474/ reference] was a massive tool on his admin app with a lot of -1s, but he got admin anyways and is a pretty good one at it as well. Toxik's right, at the end of the day, nothing any of us say makes an impact on whether or not Dave will get admin, so stop making everything a massive deal.
As to whether I +1/-1 this app, I'm not voting, as I rarely vote on admin apps for the reasons I stated above.
EDIT: This came out offly biased towards the case for Dave to be admin when I tried to be neutral. My appologizes.l'm not too fond of Dave myself.
Is totally true.
As to the the whole chatspam binds about Dave and how he reacted to it, it's harassment. Granted it could be a joke and such cause you all know him from forums and not ill-hearted, but it could bother him. He's imfamous on skial as Blade said,
but it doesn't justify messing with him and annoying him.
The person you depict youself as on forums isn't point to point exact as the way you are actually IRL. Ask anyone who's spoken with me on TS if I am as profound or on a "high horse" as I come off on forums. He has had a history, though most of you wouldn't know, as it was years ago. He was a dick and a troll and people didn't like him, he's not perfect, at all. You don't make judgements of a person by the way you see him write, you are just given impressions, an editted image of oneself. Johhny's thread http://www.skial.com/threads/friends.41372/ actually relates to this in a way.
EDIT: The part that relates to what I am saying in the OP's video.
Addressing the whole chatspam incident and how it was just fun. I don't know the whole story, nor do I want to deal with any more drama, but from what I see, it was spam. It could be a joke, but it was spam, it could be for 4-5minutes, but it was spam. Had you not been regs and been spamming some other bind not relating to Dave, chances are you would have been muted. The definition of "fun" is so twisted. It's fun to mess with a close friend, but not really of some random stranger. Don't say he's not a stranger, as you know NOTHING of him. The fact that you would have stopped had cylosis or Drum told you too, further attests to it. You do not have to be warned that you are breaking the rules, it is nice, but nothing states you must be warned. Many people on appeals argue that they were banned without warning, and people jump down their throats for not knowing the rules. You expected special treatment since you knew the admins and thought they would warn you if you went out of line, but it's not mandatory, and you lucked out. Don't get me wrong, I'm no different then you guys expected some special treatment for knowing admins, as anytime I try to join an admin on a server, albeit CiNiC, Rhi or even Cy, I half-jokingly tell them to kick someone afking so I can join immediately and not wait like other players do. I'm not entitled to it, but it almost feels like I am.
In closing, there were wrongs done on each side, but a single situation especially this small doesn't make or break an admin case. I believe gwor or chuck[EDIT: it was extaa not either of these http://www.skial.com/threads/extaas-application.18474/ reference] was a massive tool on his admin app with a lot of -1s, but he got admin anyways and is a pretty good one at it as well. Toxik's right, at the end of the day, nothing any of us say makes an impact on whether or not Dave will get admin, so stop making everything a massive deal.
As to whether I +1/-1 this app, I'm not voting, as I rarely vote on admin apps for the reasons I stated above.
EDIT: This came out offly biased towards the case for Dave to be admin when I tried to be neutral. My appologizes.l'm not too fond of Dave myself.
The 3000 winning ratings I left in Meemee time belong to this post. Someone, please round them up and return them to where they rightfully belong.
Well, living in Newfyland sucks because I miss some good late-threads. Anyways...
Why would you NOT +1 Dave? He's on Jailbreak, and he knows what to do.
Also regarding the chatspam. I did it for 45 seconds, only 3 times. Then I got bored. Then 7 minutes later, they were still doing it, so I said "Apparently Dave needs Jesus."
Why would you NOT +1 Dave? He's on Jailbreak, and he knows what to do.
Also regarding the chatspam. I did it for 45 seconds, only 3 times. Then I got bored. Then 7 minutes later, they were still doing it, so I said "Apparently Dave needs Jesus."
Peoples opinion do matter. If they didn't we wouldn't even bother having this whole process. If people don't like the applicant we don't even consider it. If people do support the applicant than we take a closer look and then decide. It is an important process.
Dave,
You have 14 forum warnings. You are lucky none of use have actually permanently ban you already.
On top of that you have three bans
http://www.skial.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0:1:31124008 &Submit=
Just with these facts alone is enough for me to not consider you... You constantly break the rules....
Your biggest argument is you want to admin the jailbreak server. Yet you are almost never on the jailbreak server.
http://stats.skial.com/stats/hlstats.php?mode=playersessions&player=1967558
Personally Dave i have nothing against you. But I am going to decline this. You keep proving to us that you cannot follow rules. If anyone else wants to give dave a chance than i guess it can be discussed.
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