• If you are not the person that was banned/muted, you are only allowed to post evidence. Trash talk is unnecessary.
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WHY THE FUCK DO PEOPLE HATE US SO MUCH! :mad:

It is only from a few people hawking their own communities. See how many of them were quick to suggest their own servers.

There's a reason why we are the most popular community in terms of players. The Reddit servers are from random people renting from a GSP and wily enough to use Reddit to boost themselves into success.
 
a friend of mine said this about Reddit:
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back on topic guys.
Filthy, after i saw you say you were going to try and 'press' risen to drop the ban completely I was, more or less, appalled. I got no say in this, but you should be grateful that he lowered the ban to 2 weeks
 
Look, I'm not here to debate who has the better community, I'm hear to play TF2. I'd prefer to play TF2 on Skial, if that's not a possibility, then that's something I'll have to deal with.
 
back on topic guys.
Filthy, after i saw you say you were going to try and 'press' risen to drop the ban completely I was, more or less, appalled. I got no say in this, but you should be grateful that he lowered the ban to 2 weeks

Perhaps a poor choice of words, as frustrating a process as this is, I'm sure any one of you could understand venting to a sympathetic crowd. I merely mean to say that I believe a 2 week ban is rough for someone who didn't break the rules.
 
Perhaps a poor choice of words, as frustrating a process as this is, I'm sure any one of you could understand venting to a sympathetic crowd. I merely mean to say that I believe a 2 week ban is rough for someone who didn't break the rules.
But you cant say that for certain, you yourself knows what happened, but as a majority we don't know for certain if you hacked or not. It's your word versus an admin of our servers so 2 weeks sounds fair to me.
 
Plenty of times I have played with my friend who has the same issue as you, not a very decent computer and on a wireless connection. He teleports around the map sometimes especially in some heavy load situations where there is multiple people engaging in a single area. He doesn't speed hack and I know this for sure because I've seen it on his screen in person and it doesn't look like anything is happening but people are still complaining about him teleporting every so often. However the only fix for that would be to get a better computer and either get closer to the wireless signal or get hard wired.

Either way after reading this entire thread I must say Risen is full of shit and doesn't know his head from his ass, how he is still a moderator of a server with potential donors is beyond me. I honestly don't think he's banned one actual speed hacker or even knows what it REALLY looks like. Time to get off your knee's children, Risen's cock isn't all that big after all. I would just find another server if I were you, fuck these guys and their pretentious, pompous bullshit. I'm not even saying go to any specific server, just find another community all together. This goes for anyone who is appalled here today to learn that you can buy your way out of any ban for any reason, you should be fucking DISGUSTED by that, not by him wanting to press further for a much less lengthy ban time because he was banned without a clear decision anyway. 4-60, his "speed hacks" were working just fine weren't they? Trust me, faggot, you'd know fucking speed hacks when you see it and a guy is 100-1 because someone finally got off a lucky sticky nade. Bad connection =/= speed hacks. You can fucking go you-tube what speed hacks looks like and I guarantee your mind about to be fucking blown.
Can we ban him? ^^
 
Perhaps a poor choice of words, as frustrating a process as this is, I'm sure any one of you could understand venting to a sympathetic crowd. I merely mean to say that I believe a 2 week ban is rough for someone who didn't break the rules.
though i understand venting anger, i don't understand why you had to go to a different community saying stuff like this: Apparently I was banned by RisenDemon, who has all Skial players in line to kiss his feet. Overturn seems quite unlikely at this point.
you didn't think that start a controversial argument?
 
though i understand venting anger, i don't understand why you had to go to a different community saying stuff like this: Apparently I was banned by RisenDemon, who has all Skial players in line to kiss his feet. Overturn seems quite unlikely at this point.
you didn't think that start a controversial argument?

At that point, nobody would engage me in a reasonable manner, I was irritated, and shared my experience with Reddit.
 
Shit ban me all you want losers, I don't play on your shit servers nor would I even want to after reading this horse shit of a thread you guys call "knowledge dropping." Keep hating the truth because I just spoke it, faggots.
Your the one who needs to get his head out of his ass, your playing bias on a 2 sided story, if anything your 2 cents just made things worse for your "friend" So good job.
 
Shit ban me all you want losers, I don't play on your shit servers nor would I even want to after reading this horse shit of a thread you guys call "knowledge dropping." Keep hating the truth because I just spoke it, faggots.
If you don't like us, why did you just spend time creating an account on a community that you don't like, just to respond in this specific thread?
I'm assuming Reddit brought you here.
 
Well, I created an account just for this, so here goes:

I am pretty sure he wasn't speedhacking, and I think sure I know what happened. I can't confirm anything 100% though, because I'm not an expert on this topic, but I do know enough to give my reasoning on this.
As stated, he has a crappy internet connection. What probably happened was it was so slow, it didn't send packets as constantly as needed to maintain a regular appearance. This meant he would walk forward, and the game would know that, but it might not have sent information to the server, so he stops momentarily. Then, when his client does send information again, it updates, so other players see him moving again. This momentary pause, sometimes just taking up a fraction of a second, could make it look like he was speedhacking, because it looked like he jumped from one place to another to other players when really, it just didn't send a few packets, so he didn't move, then when he moved again, jumped farther ahead. Even if he wasn't jumpy, this can still happen. If it doesn't send just one packet, he won't appear to be jumpy, but appear to just go a tad bit faster.

His connection could download the packets being sent to him fine, but it had trouble sending them, explaining why on his screen it looked normal.

I hope everyone could understand and comprehend what I just typed, because I know their probably is a better way of explaining it.
 
I'm going leave your ban permanent unless you reply to every negative comment above 5 points on your Reddit thread, and edit your story text explaining why we made the right choice.

http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/ry8xb/banned_on_skial_for_speedhacking_wat_do/

Here is why we made the right choice.
  • Lag or packet loss will never make you run faster. If the server doesn't get a packet from you, it will assume you are moving at the same velocity as before. If it ends out that you stopped moving before you reconnected to the server, the server will teleport you backwards. It will never speed you up.
  • Just because you have a low KD doesn't prove you weren't hacking.
    In fact most of the hackers detected beyond a reasonable doubt by SMAC either have very low or high KDs. They probably use hacks because they are tired of sucking.
  • Just because you are arguing so much doesn't make you innocent either. My favorite example. http://www.skial.com/threads/cinic-on-youtube-db-bombz.111/
  • We asked for a donation because ever since F2P, cheaters don't suffer a financial penalty. If you don't like it, donate to a charity in our name.
    We aren't made of money so we aren't going to say no to being paid for the overhead of monitoring you for more cheating.
  • You trying to stir up shit on Reddit. "Then I might just tell them all to go to hell."
 
Who said he's a friend? Who said I give a shit what happens to him further? I told him what he should do, and I could care less if he still tries to come back to this faggot of a server or not.

Also Bottiger, you're a fucking moron to believe that lag or packet loss makes you run faster, it doesn't do that you dumb mother fucker. That wasn't even said throughout Risen's explanations at all. Everyone that has seen the guy has said "he was teleporting every now and then." Which seems to me like fucking lag.. because guess what happens in this netcode in this game fuck face? TELEPORTING WHEN LAGGING. You need to understand why you fucked up, admit to it that you fucked up, and do some more research because you're all fucking retarded on this entire subject.


bottiger said
Here is why we made the right choice.
  • Lag or packet loss will never make you run faster. If the server doesn't get a packet from you, it will assume you are moving at the same velocity as before. If it ends out that you stopped moving before you reconnected to the server, the server will teleport you backwards. It will never speed you up.
  • Just because you have a low KD doesn't prove you weren't hacking.
    In fact most of the hackers detected beyond a reasonable doubt by SMAC either have very low or high KDs. They probably use hacks because they are tired of sucking.
  • Just because you are arguing so much doesn't make you innocent either. My favorite example. http://www.skial.com/threads/cinic-on-youtube-db-bombz.111/
  • We asked for a donation because ever since F2P, cheaters don't suffer a financial penalty. If you don't like it, donate to a charity in our name.
    We aren't made of money so we aren't going to say no to being paid for the overhead of monitoring you for more cheating.
  • You trying to stir up shit on Reddit. "Then I might just tell them all to go to hell."
 
Who said he's a friend? Who said I give a shit what happens to him further? I told him what he should do, and I could care less if he still tries to come back to this faggot of a server or not.

Also Bottiger, you're a fucking moron to believe that lag or packet loss makes you run faster, it doesn't do that you dumb mother fucker. That wasn't even said throughout Risen's explanations at all. Everyone that has seen the guy has said "he was teleporting every now and then." Which seems to me like fucking lag.. because guess what happens in this netcode in this game fuck face? TELEPORTING WHEN LAGGING. You need to understand why you fucked up, admit to it that you fucked up, and do some more research because you're all fucking retarded on this entire subject.
PLEASE Ban this kid.
 
Who said he's a friend? Who said I give a shit what happens to him further? I told him what he should do, and I could care less if he still tries to come back to this faggot of a server or not.

Also Bottiger, you're a fucking moron to believe that lag or packet loss makes you run faster, it doesn't do that you dumb mother fucker. That wasn't even said throughout Risen's explanations at all. Everyone that has seen the guy has said "he was teleporting every now and then." Which seems to me like fucking lag.. because guess what happens in this netcode in this game fuck face? TELEPORTING WHEN LAGGING. You need to understand why you fucked up, admit to it that you fucked up, and do some more research because you're all fucking retarded on this entire subject.
Lag or packet loss will never make you run faster.
apparently you can't read
 
I'm going leave your ban permanent unless you reply to every negative comment above 5 points on your Reddit thread, and edit your story text explaining why we made the right choice.

http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/ry8xb/banned_on_skial_for_speedhacking_wat_do/

Here is why we made the right choice.
  • Lag or packet loss will never make you run faster. If the server doesn't get a packet from you, it will assume you are moving at the same velocity as before. If it ends out that you stopped moving before you reconnected to the server, the server will teleport you backwards. It will never speed you up.
  • Just because you have a low KD doesn't prove you weren't hacking.
    In fact most of the hackers detected beyond a reasonable doubt by SMAC either have very low or high KDs. They probably use hacks because they are tired of sucking.
  • Just because you are arguing so much doesn't make you innocent either. My favorite example. http://www.skial.com/threads/cinic-on-youtube-db-bombz.111/
  • We asked for a donation because F2P means cheaters don't suffer a financial penalty. If you don't like it, donate to a charity in our name.
  • You trying to stir up shit on Reddit. "Then I might just tell them all to go to hell."

Hello Bottiger,

I'm to explain why I deserved to be banned to Reddit? I believe the two threads are linked together. If Reddit sees my apology is forced, it will be meaningless. The only gesture that would mean anything to Reddit is if the ban is lifted and I tell them that you guys ended up doing the sensible thing.

The only good outcome here in my eyes is to unban me. Shows good faith from mods who had little evidence, and that Skial mods do not punish people who aren't cheating. It is my word against Rising's that I wasn't cheating.
 
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