So immigrants prevent progress as a species? Your white supremacy is showing.split america in half, the top half can be for those who want to have lots of immigrants etc and be communists
the south can be for real americans who want to progress as a species
edit: do the same with england but instead it's east and west
Not arguing, but I'm curious as to why?
hello yes i like white peopleSo immigrants prevent progress as a species? Your white supremacy is showing.
It's my personal belief that it encourages illegal immigration. I don't think just because someone sneaks over here they should get to jump the line from people who are waiting in our arduous immigration system already. I said earlier in the thread my father immigrated over here, it took them like 8 years. We should absolutely make the system better, how? I don't know. But, the one thing we shouldn't do is encourage people to break our laws by rewarding them with a chance to get citizenship for doing so. I know a path to citizenship isn't supposed to be for all illegals, but I just think it's incredibly unfair to those who are doing everything by legal channels. My view may be biased due to my father's situation, but that's just my beliefs. I don't know how you handle the family situation, if I did, I'd probably have a Nobel Prize for it.
Oh, I took the quote to mean "I don't believe in giving citizenship to people who weren't born in the country".
I think that's fair enough, what about people who flee from violence - but not through the asylum system?
The issue is with most debate, a lot of people take illegal immigration to mean regular immigration. Immigrants add to our country in immense ways. That aside, I don't quite know what should be done with those whose country is too dangerous to send them back to. Is it our job to be universal caretakers? If they do things by legal channel and seek asylum, get vetted, there is no reason for them not to be able to stay until their situation resolves (if it ever does). If they don't come legally, we should still probably eject them from the country. People who do things legally should be allowed to stay, those who think they are more important than the others who go through our process shouldn't. As cruel as it may sound, it's not our job to shelter everyone in the world, what's the point of borders otherwise? I'm not against granting asylum, at all, so long as it's done by proper channels...not when they declare it after they've been caught in our country illegally.
So immigrants prevent progress as a species? Your white supremacy is showing.
The issue is with most debate, a lot of people take illegal immigration to mean regular immigration. Immigrants add to our country in immense ways. That aside, I don't quite know what should be done with those whose country is too dangerous to send them back to. Is it our job to be universal caretakers? If they do things by legal channel and seek asylum, get vetted, there is no reason for them not to be able to stay until their situation resolves (if it ever does). If they don't come legally, we should still probably eject them from the country. People who do things legally should be allowed to stay, those who think they are more important than the others who go through our process shouldn't. As cruel as it may sound, it's not our job to shelter everyone in the world, what's the point of borders otherwise? I'm not against granting asylum, at all, so long as it's done by proper channels...not when they declare it after they've been caught in our country illegally.
what white supremacy dude it's just called using your eyes these people come in and take money from the government without putting much in although this is from a uk perspective so it's probably quite different and i should have probably specified illegal immigration, but i don't think it should be super easy to get in legally either you should have decent skills etc same rules as getting a green card tbh
They have to pay sales taxes on things that they buy. They have to pay income tax unless the employer is somehow paying them under the table which is very difficult. I am unsure of how property taxes are efffected.dont they also not pay taxes
They have to pay sales taxes on things that they buy. They have to pay income tax unless the employer is somehow paying them under the table which is very difficult. I am unsure of how property taxes are efffected.
Employers that don’t use E-Verify or file I-9’s face stiff penalties.In Texas (personal reference) a very large amount of illegal immigrants in labor type jobs are paid solely in cash. It is very common. It benefits both the employer (they don't have to pay wage-based taxes) and the employee since they do not pay FIT and SIT taxes.
Edit: Forgot Texans don't pay income SIT on their income. Durr.
Employers that don’t use E-Verify or file I-9’s face stiff penalties.
And aren’t the employers that pay ‘illegal immigrants’ cash part of the problem? Why don’t they get any of the blame?
I don't think anyone truly disagrees with you on that.
The problem is that the Trump administration has implemented this policy of not deporting people.
Unfortunately as chuckwagon has said, it seems like they're trying to deter even legal immigration.
Culture is an important feature in human communities, immigration just serves to dilute that culture and fractures communities if left unchecked. Every country needs border control and stringent immigration policies to protect their own identities.
Trump makes sense in my eyes, protect your own.