Approved Removal of engineer on MGE

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Lightion, Jan 2, 2018.

  1. Lightion

    Lightion Uncharitable Spy

    Steam:
    The problem with having Engineer on an MGE server is that it allows for the exploiting with the Eureka effect. Basically when you equip it and use the 'Home' Teleport it puts you in a Tiny Dark box. This spot is where everyone spawns so the map can recognise what arena they're meant to be put in. The map for whatever reason also engineers to build in that spot (incl. teleporters, Sentries, Dispensers) Which means an engineer can build an exit inside that area, put an entrance in the Arena he's in and put down a Sentry and start shooting people when they teleport in it. This also allows Pyros to come in and Start burning people of the opposite team.

    Here's a demo of an Engineer building a sentry in that same spot: http://www.mediafire.com/file/bg6ag229qz4ndb4/exploit.dem

    (It's kinda hard to see it, but its there)
     
  2. Dave

    Dave TF2 Admin Contributor

    Steam:
    Maybe just remove the " Eureka effect" and not the engineer? That would prevent it from happening and not disallow a class to play.
     
  3. Lightion

    Lightion Uncharitable Spy

    Steam:
    I agree with that. Didn't thought of that
     
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  4. Luke

    Luke Legendary Skial King Contributor

    Steam:
    Would removing the ability to build work?

    Do Engineer MGE people use the gunslinger?
     
  5. Lightion

    Lightion Uncharitable Spy

    Steam:
    Can't use the Eureka effect and the gunslinger at the same time; They're both different wrenches

    Also to disable building you would have to modify the map. Call Cream-Tea for that one
     
  6. chairius✿

    chairius✿ Wicked Nasty Engineer

    Steam:
    -1, just disallow the Eureka effect and go on with life
     
  7. Luke

    Luke Legendary Skial King Contributor

    Steam:
    I understand that they're different wrenches.

    You don't have to modify the map, it can be disabled in a plugin.
    We already do this for Jailbreak, no one is able to build anything.
     
  8. Dave

    Dave TF2 Admin Contributor

    Steam:
    You can and should be able to build. IE "gunslinger" popular one.
    The issue is when you use the " Eureka effect" it brings you under the map (box) and allows to build in an area not meant to be.
     
  9. Lightion

    Lightion Uncharitable Spy

    Steam:
    This thread says approved. So what happened. Is the Eureka effect banned?
     
  10. ly_dee

    ly_dee Epic Skial Regular Contributor

    If it's approved it means yes,
     
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