• If you are not the person that was banned/muted, you are only allowed to post evidence. Trash talk is unnecessary.

Unban Dire?

  • Yes

    Votes: 56 48.3%
  • No

    Votes: 60 51.7%

  • Total voters
    116
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Giildy: I have no idea what you're talking about except that those emails are not unbannable for any context unless you can bring me a contract that explicity says she agreed to every part of that.
I'm saying that the pictures he got banned for. The only fucking thing that concerns us, he said were not of her.

She said they were to an admin.

he was banned because she lied.

Now long after the fact we find that he was right, those pictures were not of her.

these emails have nothing to do with this ban. I have had harrasment along the lines of those emails and i have never once thought a single fucking thing was going to be done about it because no one here bans for things like that. What point is there for banning him for emails that he sent to someone that lied and fucked him over? Especially if those emails back in the day would have been him flirting? We don't see the whole conversation, and to be perfectly honest the conversation isn't even something that concerns us.

He should be unbanned because he was banned under false charges. She wants him to stay banned because of something that under the rules at the time would not even get him a slap on the wrist. now he might get a few days at best.
 
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doesnt sound like the sort of thing that someone who is into being abused for sexual gratification can get off on.
you'd be suprised
 
I'm saying that the pictures he got banned for. The only fucking thing that concerns us, he said were not of her.

She said they were to an admin.

he was banned because she lied.

Now long after the fact we find that he was right, those pictures were not of her.

these emails have nothing to do with this ban. I have had harrasment along the lines of those emails and i have never once thought a single fucking thing was going to be done about it because no one here bans for things like that. What point is there for banning him for emails that he sent to someone that lied and fucked him over? Especially if those emails back in the day would have been him flirting? We don't see the whole conversation, and to be perfectly honest the conversation isn't even something that concerns us.

He should be unbanned because he was banned under false charges. She wants him to stay banned because of something that under the rules at the time would not even get him a slap on the wrist. now he might get a few days at best.

It tells us his character. And

> Especially if those emails back in the day would have been him flirting?

Tells me yours.
 
The guy is drunk constantly, he needs helps, serious help.
do him a favor, keep him banned, maybe he will seek out help.
 
He should be unbanned because he was banned under false charges.
What's the evidence of this statement (sorry don't know the full history) as this is the most important thing i have read so far.
 
I know he's on his like third or fourth chance (probably more) but I think half a year is an acceptable punishment..
From what I can tell, not even his fourth. In many places around the world, regardless where, after the second chance, that's it. Time or no time. There are somethings time will not heal or change.

as I said above - why can't you simply reban him and NEVER unban him if he fucks up again? The vote seems pretty deadlocked, enough that I think he'll end up getting unbanned...I'm just saying you're not trying to defuse a bomb here, if you make the wrong decision and fuck up he isn't going to blow up and kill everyone...he's simply going to start a shitstorm, come into a server drunk, and an admin will instantly permanently ban him.
That is sort of the best case scenario with him coming back. Thing is someone like that is unpredictable. There is worse he could do just as a last shot, without caring about being banned again. And if he is that volatile drunk, I'd hate to see him if he was actually having an ulterior motive. Maybe I am being paranoid, who knows, I'd rather be safe than sorry when it comes to trusting someone who has a drinking and anger circles of problems. And there are some shitstorms that don't have a funny ending to them.



Why are we holding double standards, particularly now when we know the pictures he posted weren't real?
There was some information which is believed to be genuine. Maybe not the pictures but pieces of it. Yet oddly enough some of you forget to mention it.

End result, no. Someone of that kind of temperament? Griefing and giving that a second chance or more is understandable. But this is more than that. Someone could get bored of griefing and just stop it. Fact is, people don't change how they act unless it is for their own good, not as in a benign good, but a selfish good.
 
That is sort of the best case scenario with him coming back. Thing is someone like that is unpredictable. There is worse he could do just as a last shot, without caring about being banned again. And if he is that volatile drunk, I'd hate to see him if he was actually having an ulterior motive. Maybe I am being paranoid, who knows, I'd rather be safe than sorry when it comes to trusting someone who has a drinking and anger circles of problems. And there are some shitstorms that don't have a funny ending to them.
You've obviously never played with dicaprio, he's chill, drinks little, plays on a toaster and has no hats.
 
You've obviously never played with dicaprio, he's chill, drinks little, plays on a toaster and has no hats.
I don't know him. I'm going on what I am reading here as well as experience when it comes to dealing with people. But again. I am more against the whole fact that he is a avoiding his ban by returning without being unbanned and should not be given the chance many aren't given simply because he is well liked.
 
His mind was fucked with, his feelings were hurt, and they can last a long, long time. But who knows? He might've changed, I say unban him and see where it goes.
 
I don't know him. I'm going on what I am reading here as well as experience when it comes to dealing with people. But again. I am more against the whole fact that he is a avoiding his ban by returning without being unbanned and should not be given the chance many aren't given simply because he is well liked.
A couple weeks ago it was one of those rare occasions where direwulf was actually online, I told him to play a round of tf2 with me on us21, but I remembered he was banned. He made a new account under the name of Dicaprio, just so he could play with me. Then he got hooked on tf2 again. Ever since then he's just been hanging out on us5 and us21. I've never seen him break any skial rule under the name of Dicaprio.
 
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NAyg

doesnt sound like the sort of thing that someone who is into being abused for sexual gratification can get off on.

There's a lot about this stuff going on... how there have been lies and shit, it's a fucking soap opera.

To be perfectly honest, I feel that he never should've been banned. I'd post what I know and I know a LOT but I'm having a hard time figuring whether it'd be being loyal to a.. "friend", or bringing justice to a man who has had his heart broken over lies. I experienced this sorta shit and I honestly don't tolorate it.
 
it's the wrong hlstatsx that zebra posted. they don't even have the same ip

i never said the person in the chatlog was direwulf. He is a friend of dire.

Right after i banned dicaprio direwulf was messaging blackandwhite about how i banned him because i have an admin gf. Which i don't, never did. i have a irl gf.

I don't understand how you guys don't see that as him changing. Its the same stuff he has done before
 
i never said the person in the chatlog was direwulf. He is a friend of dire.

Right after i banned dicaprio direwulf was messaging blackandwhite about how i banned him because i have an admin gf. Which i don't, never did. i have a irl gf.

I don't understand how you guys don't see that as him changing. Its the same stuff he has done before
Same stuff he did BEFORE Anya.
 
Trying to be as unbiased as I possibly can in this situation, really....but we TRIED to give him another chance. He was banned once, unbanned, and rebanned within A WEEK and now he is back on an alternate account (dodging a permanent ban) and is still committing traces of the offense he was banned for (shit-stirring and user harassment). Can you really look at all of that and tell me HONESTLY that you think he has changed?
That was during the time when he was drunk as usual, and couldn't stop.
 
Oh sure, unban Dire. And while you're at it unban Piero, Dwox as well. They too probably changed and won't do stuff they did before. Oh yeah, don't forget to unban Colton.
 
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