Why would playing music NOT be micspam? People advertise trades all the time over mic. Having someone playing music while others are talking is annoying it makes it harder to hear.Playing music is not mic spam. People talking that you don't like is not mic spam. People talking over you because they have you muted is not spam. If you don't like someone, client mute them. Starting a thread to say "trade ny needs an admin because I don't know how to use client mute" is extremely ridiculous.
Why would playing music NOT be micspam? People advertise trades all the time over mic. Having someone playing music while others are talking is annoying it makes it harder to hear.
It's understandable and I could personally care less on regular servers, but on trade I think it is different. Being able to communicate on a pub server is not essential. On a trade server, if you can't communicate there is literally no point in being there.A year or so ago we discussed our stance on music being played. The jist of what it came down to is we allow people to play music on any server and you are allowed to attempt to votesilence for it
It's understandable and I could personally care less on regular servers, but on trade I think it is different. Being able to communicate on a pub server is not essential. On a trade server, if you can't communicate there is literally no point in being there.
I guess I forgot when the admins made that decision. No point in arguing about it anymore.
Some admins have told me that the higher-ups said to remove music as a reason for spam. Mainly because some people play good music that people end up listening to. Also because you can use the chat to trade. If someone is playing music that a lot of the players enjoy, I just start using chat and listening. But if it's an extremely crappy mic and music that no one wants to listen to, then it could be considered spam, I think. Even if it's a song that I don't like, I wouldn't mute them for spam since some people might actually like the music that person is playing. That's why it isn't against the rules.
Bottiger said:The real problem is that some admins think any music coming out of voice chat is spam, I don't agree with that definition.
I don't see why we should exclude ourselves from controlling spammers on any specific server. There are some circumstance I've seen people complain about.
If people don't care about it, I wouldn't consider it to be spam.
Random babbling and shrieking.
Playing really bad quality music as if it TF2 voice chat wasn't bad enough.
Multiple people spamming music and voice clips at the same time.