New End Double Jeopardy

[Winnie]

End Double Jeopardy​

This suggestion comes as a concern that players are being punished twice for the same infraction and it is negatively impacting the community.
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Quarf is the first report that I was involved in witnessing. They were discontent about being muted for a slur by the automute, but they did not repeat after the mute expired. Unfortunately, a report was generated for another mute to be actioned on the player. They have not returned after they were muted again.
Quarf is just one of the many players who choose not to return to Skial. Multiple similar reports are occurring that prevent players from playing in Skial.

Another example is Jebus's report. How can it be considered fair to impose two disciplinary actions when the evidence clearly shows the automute doing its function?

The mute/silence was edited to be a day instead by an anonymous administrator.


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Lastly, the most recent report from Arvense. This player appeared, according to logs, with poor intent.
They were automuted, so the situation at hand was already resolved.

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Recent reports are resulting similarly. There are just too many times when a player is getting muted again for something they have already been muted for. It's out of control, and it needs to be addressed.

 

[Cream Tea]

there would be more new blood to come in, that new blood is much thinner now.

That would be correct if it weren't for the fact that I've already shown that TF2's player numbers are not declining and that there are servers on older games that seem to have no problem filling up. Players attract players and it's difficult to revive a server once it's died out especially when those players who made the community what it was are no longer around.

You might not be aware of the extent of what was going on, Kalashnikov was one of those admins who would search through the chat logs to find anything that could possibly be deemed offensive just so he could mute more players. He would also sit in spectate mode to mute anyone who dared to play a funny sound in voice chat kind of like what ProKid was doing on Freak Fortress 2 except this was an admin who could mute people on the spot instead of having to make a report first.

Surf was at its peak when it was practically unmoderated. Kalashnikov likes to complain that he's being "witch hunted" but no other admin was going to these lengths to police a server. It's not first time something like this has happened either; Luke was doing the same shit on Jailbreak and because he "technically wasn't doing anything wrong" nothing was done about him until it was too late. Jailbreak never recovered after that.

 

[Metroidz]

God....when will these terrible suggestions from "Skial worst examples of the community" end?

 

[Maddo]

That would be correct if it weren't for the fact that I've already shown that TF2's player numbers are not declining and that there are servers on older games that seem to have no problem filling up. Players attract players and it's difficult to revive a server once it's died out especially when those players who made the community what it was are no longer around.

You might not be aware of the extent of what was going on, Kalashnikov was one of those admins who would search through the chat logs to find anything that could possibly be deemed offensive just so he could mute more players. He would also sit in spectate mode to mute anyone who dared to play a funny sound in voice chat kind of like what ProKid was doing on Freak Fortress 2 except this was an admin who could mute people on the spot instead of having to make a report first.

Surf was at its peak when it was practically unmoderated. Kalashnikov likes to complain that he's being "witch hunted" but no other admin was going to these lengths to police a server. It's not first time something like this has happened either; Luke was doing the same shit on Jailbreak and because he "technically wasn't doing anything wrong" nothing was done about him until it was too late. Jailbreak never recovered after that.

As I said before, numbers playing TF2 have plummeted to what they were before covid, and looks to be on a slow decline if that trend continues.
If you are going to base your assumptions on that graph, you will see a massive decline in players over the last two years, even you have to agree that that mirrors the drop you talk about in Skial...
There has always been at least one asshole admin that lets the 'power' go to their head and starts following their own agenda, the police forces across the globe are also littered with these feeble minded sheep that want to be an authority in their own right. Bad admin are not driving people away, they never did before, they're just annoying.

 

[Cream Tea]

As I said before, numbers playing TF2 have plummeted to what they were before covid, and looks to be on a slow decline if that trend continues.
If you are going to base your assumptions on that graph, you will see a massive decline in players over the last two years, even you have to agree that that mirrors the drop you talk about in Skial...

Sure, but Skial also had double the amount of servers back then and that was still after quickplay was removed.

There has always been at least one asshole admin that lets the 'power' go to their head and starts following their own agenda, the police forces across the globe are also littered with these feeble minded sheep that want to be an authority in their own right. Bad admin are not driving people away, they never did before, they're just annoying.

You only need one unchecked badmin to kill an entire community. It's happened many times before.

 

[Metroidz]

@Maddo don't bother. Any answer you argue with him he won't take. Cream Tea isn't mature enough to see any viewpoints other than their own. Everyone is a bad man to a scorned admin who lost their role and keeps "moving the goalpost". It's just not worth it to argue with the worthless.

 

[Cream Tea]

Both deathrun servers were active before Covid but now only one is active despite the player counts being virtually the same. How do you explain that?

 

[Winnie]

Something was proving to be successful before Covid and the bot crisis was even a thing.

Some takeaways from this:

1. Why did the decrease occur back then? Were there lessons learned?
2. We are now back to 2019, the lowest Skial has reached in nearly a decade.
3. Are we really putting our faith for another pandemic? Or should it be on another strategy?

 

[Blade D_Hero]

Both deathrun servers were active before Covid but now only one is active despite the player counts being virtually the same. How do you explain that?

Covid was half a decade ago

 

[Cream Tea]

Covid was half a decade ago

Okay, and? The point is that the overall TF2 player levels are pretty similar to before Covid yet the server activity is not. So, how do you explain that?

 

[Metroidz]

Okay, and? The point is that the overall TF2 player levels are pretty similar to before Covid yet the server activity is not. So, how do you explain that?

@Blade D_Hero STOP. Cream Tea is NOT going to be in any sort of agreement or compliance with any of your arguments. He is being his usual defiant argumentative self. You are WASTING your time as he literally has nothing to lose and no job to spend. He will argue and still not get his way, and then he will complain.

 

[Cream Tea]

@Blade D_Hero STOP. Cream Tea is NOT going to be in any sort of agreement or compliance with any of your arguments. He is being his usual defiant argumentative self. You are WASTING your time as he literally has nothing to lose and no job to spend. He will argue and still not get his way, and then he will complain.

That wasn't just moving the goalposts that was like pretending the goalpost wasn't there.

I'm not arguing in bad faith I genuinely want the servers, especially the custom ones, to stay alive for as long as possible but nobody else seems to care.

 

[Metroidz]

That wasn't just moving the goalposts that was like pretending the goalpost wasn't there.

I'm not arguing in bad faith I genuinely want the servers, especially the custom ones, to stay alive for as long as possible but nobody else seems to care.

Lie to everyone else. You can't lie to me. I'm a whole lot smarter than that bullshit.

 

[Blade D_Hero]

@Blade D_Hero STOP. Cream Tea is NOT going to be in any sort of agreement or compliance with any of your arguments. He is being his usual defiant argumentative self. You are WASTING your time as he literally has nothing to lose and no job to spend. He will argue and still not get his way, and then he will complain.

Some people wind down after work with a whiskey and their favorite television show.

Others? Maybe some chocolate and a saucy romance novel by the fire?

Me? I enjoy arguing online.

 

[Maddo]

Both deathrun servers were active before Covid but now only one is active despite the player counts being virtually the same. How do you explain that?

Perhaps they got sick of hearing you constantly complain and left to get a bit of peace from the drama?
Perhaps the player base was heavy with toxic individuals that eventually got banned?
Perhaps people just got bored with the game type?
All of the above plus more?

Something was proving to be successful before Covid and the bot crisis was even a thing.



Some takeaways from this:

1. Why did the decrease occur back then? Were there lessons learned?
2. We are now back to 2019, the lowest Skial has reached in nearly a decade.
3. Are we really putting our faith for another pandemic? Or should it be on another strategy?

Take bidens presidency out and it's obvious, orange man bad for skial

Me? I enjoy arguing online.

No you dont.

 

[Blade D_Hero]

No you dont.

 

[Zeo]

You might not be aware of the extent of what was going on, Kalashnikov was one of those admins who would search through the chat logs to find anything that could possibly be deemed offensive just so he could mute more players. He would also sit in spectate mode to mute anyone who dared to play a funny sound in voice chat kind of like what ProKid was doing on Freak Fortress 2 except this was an admin who could mute people on the spot instead of having to make a report first.

Surf was at its peak when it was practically unmoderated. Kalashnikov likes to complain that he's being "witch hunted" but no other admin was going to these lengths to police a server. It's not first time something like this has happened either; Luke was doing the same shit on Jailbreak and because he "technically wasn't doing anything wrong" nothing was done about him until it was too late. Jailbreak never recovered after that.

The dude only played Dustbowl and handled reports. He occasionally joined other servers when people messaged him. I don’t know what fantasy trip you’re on.