There are just too many times when a player is getting muted again for something they have already been muted for. It's out of control, and it needs to be addressed.
Oh no, someone being racist/discriminatory got muted longer than they expected? How will this affect the economy?!
The mute/silence was edited to be a day instead by an anonymous administrator.
I don't think this admin is exactly "wrong" for extending the mute. Using the hard R as a casual insult isn't just something anyone should simply gloss over. Personally I don't think the 2 hour automute is long enough. It should be a day by default if people are choosing to act childishly in a public space (Skial servers). Which is also what the admins must think; thus, they extend the mute. I see no problem in that.
Especially when you consider this guideline that's in the Admin Reference Guide (that I referenced
the previous time discussing this topic):
Ban Lengths
Here are the standard ban lengths. Use longer ban times based on the seriousness of the offense, or if the person plays rarely and would not be affected by a short ban time, or is a repeat offender.
Let's be real, most people that play on Skial nowadays probably aren't veterans or regulars. Yes, they make up a lot of the community, but a good chunk are new players who've never been to Skial. Which also means they wouldn't be affected by a short mute, i.e., a 2 hour mute. I think extending it is a good choice. You never know, they'll probably think it's ok to do it again later or try bypassing a slur the next time. You don't fully realize the people you're defending here and it puts you in a bad light.
Lastly, the
most recent report from Arvense. This player appeared, according to logs, with poor intent.
They were automuted, so the situation at hand was already resolved.
If they came with the intent to disrupt the peace of the server, why should their mute extension be an issue? For you, specifically. How does this affect
you at all? Why would it matter if someone like this came back to Skial or not?
You claim it's killing the server, but I say these admins are in the right. Why should they let things like this slide? If you want to keep the peace, you must enforce the rules. I do not think simply being muted for 2 hours will teach someone a lesson or that what they say is wrong. Not to mention, they shouldn't be acting like this in the first place. This is just the result of poor parenting; acting a fool on the internet with no regard to others' feelings. Why is it such an issue they get muted longer? Because it's "unfair?" Unfair to these racists? To these people who were never taught right from wrong growing up?
I can't bring myself to agree that a human report for the same offense should even be 1 day if automute has already resolved.
Yes, because someone being muted for 2 hours will surely fix the way they think and see things. They definitely won't just leave and come back later just to be racist again. (I have seen it happen multiple times.)
It's creating a net-negative result in the player base for Skial, and eventually, players will no longer populate.
You are really overexaggerating. And before you bring up the Deathrun EU server to prove your point, that is only one instance and I'm sure it wasn't even majority that stopped playing solely because of that reason. I can't see that being why. It's a stretch to think an entire server died just because "Oh, my favorite regular got muted/banned. Guess I'll stop playing." Maybe they're angry they can't be freely racist on Skial? Then it's a good thing those people stopped playing. Otherwise, why would they be so pissed about moderation? (Aside from infractions in regards to Deathrun specifically, griefing being one. I see how people would stop playing because of that, but I haven't seen a report with "double jeopardy" being the issue.) And also, two of the three reports you mentioned did not come from any DR server, so I don't think you can even use that as an excuse in this case.
Not to mention, a good chunk of reports don't even have this issue. The Skial community as a whole haven't exactly been discussing this topic in particular, so I think it's safe to say it's not as big of a problem as you might think it is.
I think it's really just dependent on the context of the situation. Let's say it's a "regular" that gets muted for an extended time. They were spamming in chat or something, get muted for 2 hours, come to find out the next day they're still muted. I don't think that's okay. But also because they were only spamming. In this context, they weren't racist, so I don't think that's right for them to be muted longer. But then again, they are a regular, at this point they should
know not to spam in chat, right? So don't you think it's the fault of the player rather than the admin who extended the mute?
In another situation, let's say some random person who had never played Skial prior to this day joins, says something racist and gets muted for 2 hours, tries coming back the next day to find out they're still muted. Is it really that big of a deal? You have no idea who this person is. They have no impact on the game. Not to mention, since you have no background info on them, who's to say they aren't someone's alt account trying to purposefully annoy people? Would an extended mute for them
really be that big of a deal? I don't think so.
And like I said before, I feel like it's common sense to not be racist/discriminatory just for "lols." I get that it's common for gamers to have that type of humor, but it's not exactly
normal, and it should absolutely not be normalized by trying to play off their 2 hour mutes as "okay" or "right." 1 day is fine, and that is what they deserve, anyway.
This will be the last thing that I say:
You need to stop trying to tell admins how to do their jobs. I get you're just trying to keep things fair, but it doesn't always need to be. If there's a rule for admins to place longer mutes/bans on people who wouldn't normally be affected by a shorter ban, then I don't think this suggestion is even necessary. Most of the people that get muted aren't regulars. If they're new players, it doesn't really matter if they come back or not. More new people come back everyday. Again, it's really not that big of a deal.
Some of these admins have probably been moderating longer than you've been playing on Skial as a whole. Trust me when I say they know what they're doing when it comes to muting or banning people over being disruptive/racist/discriminatory, and that you just look stupid trying to defend these people. See the bigger picture.
