I'd like to challenge my ban

[Osprey]

He's already been unbanned for having a normal K/D. Check SourceBans.

If he just started using this pistol hack or only uses it from time-to-time then it wouldn't have a dramatic effect on his K/D. Having a normal K/D doesn't preclude someone from using hacks.

 

[Sharkey]

If he just started using this pistol hack or only uses it from time-to-time then it wouldn't have a dramatic effect on his K/D. Having a normal K/D doesn't preclude someone from using hacks.

Not a pistol hack.

 

[Osprey]

Not a pistol hack.

I'm really lost here. Why is Sierra talking about pistols having a fixed fire rate if we're not talking about pistols? If he has a faster-than-acceptable fire rate with all weapons then Sierra's argument doesn't hold water. Or, are you simply stating that it's not called a "pistol hack?"

 

[Sinnx]

I'm not band from skial, but I was once in a band not on skial.

i swear i'm getting de ja vu. is that the knights of columbus hall in lyndhurst?

 

[Sharkey]

I'm really lost here. Why is Sierra talking about pistols having a fixed fire rate if we're not talking about pistols? If he has a faster-than-acceptable fire rate with all weapons then Sierra's argument doesn't hold water. Or, are you simply stating that it's not called a "pistol hack?"

Because he's trying to find an argument that he thinks makes sense.

 

[Osprey]

Because he's trying to find an argument that he thinks makes sense.

Yeah, this whole thing sounds suspicious. Why would some interested third-party go out of there way to demand that Bottiger disable an anti-cheat plugin on the server? Also, the asbestos analogy seems like it was meant to scare--in it's own ignorant way--Bottiger into changing the anti-cheat mechanisms.

 

[Sharkey]

Yeah, this whole thing sounds suspicious. Why would some interested third-party go out of there way to demand that Bottiger disable an anti-cheat plugin on the server?

Because they're friends or something, the OP made a thread on some other forum to gain support, then those people came here to try to get him off.

 

[Bottiger]

I'm really lost here. Why is Sierra talking about pistols having a fixed fire rate if we're not talking about pistols? If he has a faster-than-acceptable fire rate with all weapons then Sierra's argument doesn't hold water. Or, are you simply stating that it's not called a "pistol hack?"

Because that's what the plugin was originally for, but in TF2 you can get maximum speed just by holding down your mouse.

I had it loaded because it also detects trigger-bots that shoot for you only when you will hit someone. The purpose of this is to have an undetectable aimbot.

 

[Osprey]

Because they're friends or something, the OP made a thread on some other forums to gain support, then those people came here to try to get him off.

Sorry, I made a ninja edit. They're both demanding that the plugin be disabled. That seems like a very pointed objective for what should be a normal ban defense - no?

 

[Osprey]

Because that's what the plugin was originally for, but in TF2 you can get maximum speed just by holding down your mouse.

I had it loaded because it also detects trigger-bots that shoot for you only when you will hit someone. The purpose of this is to have an undetectable aimbot.

Thanks, I understand now.

 

[Toxik]

"The admin didn't ban me his system did. I don't think he's abusing his position but he sure is taking his sweet time to review my case. Some of the newer users have said I should be unbanned, it's sad that on that forum maturity is inversely proportional to seniority."
The "admin" is both the head admin and owner, I think he can do whatever the fuck he wants.
I'd also like to quote, by yourself again, "FUCK Now the admin wants the cheat program so he can test it himself, except there is no program. I'm stuck in a catch-22."

 

[Toxik]

I'm actually pretty amazed that Bottiger has the patience and calmness to deal with these retards.
You cheated, you were a dumbfuck. Just stop talking and accept it.
No need to go to other forums to QQ and try to get some pity support.
Bitching so much about your case and trying to anger Bottiger with your awful arguments, accusing him of missing the questions while that is exactly what you are doing with the questions you cannot answer, is only making everyone else want to see you banned even more.

 

[cadloas]

I'm impressed you still don't get it, so I'll try once more.

http://hg.nicholashastings.com/smac...9b83518737/scripting/smac_autotrigger.sp#L217

Look at the weapons section, towards the top.

// Pistols that will be checked against Auto-Fire 1 detections.
g_hPistolList = CreateTrie();
switch (SMAC_GetGameType())
{
case Game_CSS:
{
SetTrieValue(g_hPistolList, "weapon_usp", 1);
SetTrieValue(g_hPistolList, "weapon_glock", 1);
SetTrieValue(g_hPistolList, "weapon_deagle", 1);
SetTrieValue(g_hPistolList, "weapon_p228", 1);
SetTrieValue(g_hPistolList, "weapon_elite", 1);
SetTrieValue(g_hPistolList, "weapon_fiveseven", 1);
}
case Game_DODS:
{
SetTrieValue(g_hPistolList, "weapon_c96", 1);
SetTrieValue(g_hPistolList, "weapon_colt", 1);
}
case Game_HL2DM, Game_HL2CTF:
{
SetTrieValue(g_hPistolList, "weapon_pistol", 1);
SetTrieValue(g_hPistolList, "weapon_357", 1);
}
case Game_L4D, Game_L4D2:
{
SetTrieValue(g_hPistolList, "weapon_pistol", 1);
SetTrieValue(g_hPistolList, "weapon_pistol_magnum", 1);
}
}
// Updater.

What an odd coincidence that TF2 is the game that both 'positives' have been in debate over. TF2 is also the game in which the pistol has had a fixed fire rate since 2009; also happens to be the game *not included in this plug in*
What a strange coincidence we've been trying to inform you that your addon doesn't make sense to have on TF2 after the guy we're "shamelessly helping" has already been unbanned.
What a shame that your community doesn't know how to read.

 

[Bottiger]

What an odd coincidence that TF2, the game that both 'positives' have been in debate over. The game in which the pistol has had a fixed fire rate since 2009; also happens to be the game *not included in this plug in*
What a strange coincidence we've been trying to inform you that your addon doesn't make sense to have on TF2 after the guy we're "shamelessly helping" has already been unbanned.
What a shame that your community doesn't know how to read.

I applaud you for actually reading the code, but your logic is highly flawed. If he was banned for detection 1, then that additional check obviously wasn't in the stable version of the plugin we were using.

The link I showed you was the bleeding edge alpha version where they attempted to put in to only check pistols to save CPU. The author does not play TF2 so he did not include it yet.

http://hg.nicholashastings.com/smac/diff/scripting/smac_autotrigger.sp?diff2=5a767a40d73af9e469683a66f0eeb59f5e18e75a&diff1=9d75b3baa046ed7162209195caef1e1021503ab0&diff=diff to revision

 

[cadloas]

The fact that it's been changed to include all weapons doesn't change the fact that the addon wasn't designed for TF2 from the start, meaning it might as well be the alpha version for TF2; if it's even been changed for TF2. There are more weapons than just pistols in the games it was designed for; and there has been no additional code added to imply it's been switched to TF2 beyond altering 'Pistol' to 'Weapon'.

It also doesn't alter the fact that TF2 is designed in a way that the semi automatic weapons have a minimum time between being allowed to fire and scripts to mash fire for you wouldn't effect that; meaning the entire reason for the mod (and all the testing you've done in regards to firing bullets everywhere) are irrelevant to the actual point of the plugin.

 

[Saraya]

lol @ this video. On a good day (a shame those good days are very rare), I play nearly as good if not better than that hack since I am an experienced huntsman sniper. though i die alot mostly due to the fact that i always try to do the huntsman taunt kill (dont care how many times i die trying, if i can pull it off once a round, worth it).

 

[Bottiger]

It is irrelevant for getting the maximum firing speed but it is entirely relevant for human-guided aimbots (trigger-bots). A human should not be exhibiting auto-trigger behavior even though there is no need for them in TF2 to get the maximum firing rate.

You seem to have very little knowledge about hacks. Take a look at this.

http://www.enhancedaim.com/tf2-hacks.html

*Aim Trigger Bot Automatically fire when crosshair is over target.

 

[cadloas]

I honestly think you're confusing Auto-Fire for Automatically Fire. The code, to me; seems to be reffering to how quickly the player is firing his/her weapon vs when they're supposed to be capable of firing the weapon. This is further supported by the plugins explination according to the guy who made it.

"We are referring to these types of cheats:

• BunnyHop - Player holds down +jump and continues to jump repeatedly.
• Auto-Fire - Player holds down +attack and fires semi-auto weapons as if they were full-auto."

There seems to be nothing in the code to imply checking the accuracy of shots, save the term 'Auto-Fire' which again, the plugin has defined.

 

[Sharkey]

Ohhh those hacks are nice, I'm thinking about purchasing them, they look pretty sweet and I could really use a skill boost.

I honestly think you're confusing Auto-Fire for Automatically Fire. The code, to me; seems to be reffering to how quickly the player is firing his/her weapon vs when they're supposed to be capable of firing the weapon. This is further supported by the plugins explination according to the guy who made it.

"We are referring to these types of cheats:

• BunnyHop - Player holds down +jump and continues to jump repeatedly.
• Auto-Fire - Player holds down +attack and fires semi-auto weapons as if they were full-auto."

There seems to be nothing in the code to imply checking the accuracy of shots, save the term 'Auto-Fire' which again, the plugin has defined.

Do me a favor and read this post, http://forums.alliedmods.net/showpost.php?p=1588569&postcount=6, second quote down.

 

[Bottiger]

I honestly think you're confusing Auto-Fire for Automatically Fire. The code, to me; seems to be reffering to how quickly the player is firing his/her weapon vs when they're supposed to be capable of firing the weapon. This is further supported by the plugins explination according to the guy who made it.

"We are referring to these types of cheats:

• BunnyHop - Player holds down +jump and continues to jump repeatedly.
• Auto-Fire - Player holds down +attack and fires semi-auto weapons as if they were full-auto."

There seems to be nothing in the code to imply checking the accuracy of shots, save the term 'Auto-Fire' which again, the plugin has defined.

It doesn't matter if the shots are accurate or not. A TF2 player should not be shooting like an auto-trigger bot. The author has mentioned that this plugin also detects auto-trigger aimbots but I am not going to waste any more time indulging you and your forum's ignorance to dig out the quote. See OakyTree's post.