Declined Remove military area on the servers containing a map pool.

[Ijikaru]

People are complaing about this situation since I play on the skial servers,it just doesn't make any sense to have Military Area on the servers containing a map pool cause their is already 2 servers with military 24/7.

So Military would be removed from these servers :

And will still be available on the servers made for that :

 

[Bottiger]

If people don't want it then they wouldn't vote for it. I don't see why we need to do this.

 

[Ijikaru]

If people don't want it then they wouldn't vote for it. I don't see why we need to do this.

What you typed doesn't make any sense already as I said there's 2 servers military area 24/7 so if people wanted to play it they just have to go on the military servers you just avoided my point and did an ariana grande aka they want it they got it.

Let's talk facts now the only server where military is played alot is the one in LA

Players in the Saxton Hale EU hate the map they just call it trash, useless ect but we need facts here cuz apprently "people vote it" when it is actually one of the less voted map on the Saxton Hale | EU

On the other servers ( The one in NY and the Saxton Hale | US)

The map is very debatable and can't even reach the 5% maybe because people in NY already have a military 24/7 server ? and just to say people in EU exist and we have different points of view / tastes from US players.

 

[Maddo]

Your pie charts don't really say much, military area being voted 8% of the time on LA? out of how many maps, over what length of time?
EU chart doesn't even show military area, does that mean it's one of the 'other' which is 65%, if so was it voted 65% or was there a lot of other servers in the 65%? again how many other servers overall are included in them stats and over what period of time?

The short 'clip' of chat clearly shows the server running military arena on EU as people are discussing it, does this mean it was voted? It also appears that a decent proportion of that chat sampled shows people saying they like military area? (the ones that are not you btw).

Facts my man, we need facts.

 

[Ijikaru]

Your pie charts don't really say much, military area being voted 8% of the time on LA? out of how many maps, over what length of time?
EU chart doesn't even show military area, does that mean it's one of the 'other' which is 65%, if so was it voted 65% or was there a lot of other servers in the 65%? again how many other servers overall are included in them stats and over what period of time?

The short 'clip' of chat clearly shows the server running military arena on EU as people are discussing it, does this mean it was voted? It also appears that a decent proportion of that chat sampled shows people saying they like military area? (the ones that are not you btw).

Facts my man, we need facts.

It doesn't show military area because the map is under picked (it is under 3%) in EU the discussion is closed even admins doesn't like the fact that military area is on the Saxton Hale | EU. The pie charts pie shows what map have been played the past week. For the short "clip" it's just to say that people are arguing on the server every single time there's a vote people are saying "don't vote military because there's another military server". There's alot of people who don't want to play military and goes on the Saxton Hale | EU for that reason, some of them think that there's 2 many health pack ect ect... So for them to see the map in the other server it just doesn't make any sense. If anyone wanted to play the map they would go on military EU. For the LA server I don't want to go in the discussion because I don't live in US and idk if players doesn't want to go on the Military | NY because they wanna stay with people from LA or if they just don't want to go on the Military | NY period.

Oh and the worse part about that is if the map change for military which happend vry rarely everyone is disconnecting to go on the Military EU 24/7 cause there's more people so the server becomes empty you can ask zaf & kellie about that.

 

[uppe-r]

It doesn't show military area because the map is under picked (it is under 3%) in EU the discussion is closed even admins doesn't like the fact that military area is on the Saxton Hale | EU. The pie charts pie shows what map have been played the past week. For the short "clip" it's just to say that people are arguing on the server every single time there's a vote people are saying "don't vote military because there's another military server". There's alot of people who don't want to play military and goes on the Saxton Hale | EU for that reason, some of them think that there's 2 many health pack ect ect... So for them to see the map in the other server it just doesn't make any sense. If anyone wanted to play the map they would go on military EU. For the LA server I don't want to go in the discussion because I don't live in US and idk if players doesn't want to go on the Military | NY because they wanna stay with people from LA or if they just don't want to go on the Military | NY period.

Oh and the worse part about that is if the map change for military which happend vry rarely everyone is disconnecting to go on the Military EU 24/7 cause there's more people so the server becomes empty you can ask zaf & kellie about that.

You can also ask me about that, and it's totally true. A map that has a 24/7 server on a server where there's many other maps makes 0 sense.
If people want military, they go on the 24/7 server, which usually has more people playing than saxton EU. If you want a higher variety of maps than the same one all day, you go on Saxton EU. Simple

 

[Maddo]

It doesn't show military area because the map is under picked (it is under 3%) in EU the discussion is closed even admins doesn't like the fact that military area is on the Saxton Hale | EU. The pie charts pie shows what map have been played the past week. For the short "clip" it's just to say that people are arguing on the server every single time there's a vote people are saying "don't vote military because there's another military server". There's alot of people who don't want to play military and goes on the Saxton Hale | EU for that reason, some of them think that there's 2 many health pack ect ect... So for them to see the map in the other server it just doesn't make any sense. If anyone wanted to play the map they would go on military EU. For the LA server I don't want to go in the discussion because I don't live in US and idk if players doesn't want to go on the Military | NY because they wanna stay with people from LA or if they just don't want to go on the Military | NY period.

If the other in the chart shows <3% maps, then 65% / 3 = 21+ other maps in there, giving a total of 26+ maps in the overall selection so 3% is not such a small amount in comparison. (100% / 26 = 3.8%) so you would expect an average of 1/25 times a vote for military area.
3 points:
1. If only voted for <3% of the time, its not played much and therefore why is it a problem
2. If voted for >5% of the time, it is clearly in the top 5 maps voted for..
3. Depending on how long the charts cover... can radically skew the stats
I get what you're saying, but think the argument you present is derogatory to your point, which is "we can play it somewhere else, why have it here"

 

[Ijikaru]

If the other in the chart shows <3% maps, then 65% / 3 = 21+ other maps in there, giving a total of 26+ maps in the overall selection so 3% is not such a small amount in comparison. (100% / 26 = 3.8%) so you would expect an average of 1/25 times a vote for military area.
3 points:
1. If only voted for <3% of the time, its not played much and therefore why is it a problem
2. If voted for >5% of the time, it is clearly in the top 5 maps voted for..
3. Depending on how long the charts cover... can radically skew the stats
I get what you're saying, but think the argument you present is derogatory to your point, which is "we can play it somewhere else, why have it here"

You are right there's actually 28 maps on the VSH and it just made me cry to see some maps when I checked that. :)

https://www.gametracker.com/servers/ you are welcome to go check by yourself if u want.

 

[Justice]

In my opinion, I actually don't understand why in the map rotations on VSH Servers there's Military Area when they already have their OWN servers for US and EU ?

 

[Maddo]

It counts all the map which beens on the server before too and been removed. Like top arena ect ect.

https://www.gametracker.com/servers/ you are welcome to go check by yourself if u want.

Looks like it is for last 7 days according to top right corner

 

[Ijikaru]

Looks like it is for last 7 days according to top right corner

I know I edited my post 3 hours ago xd. But anyway that's not the topic ^^.

 

[Maddo]

I know I edited my post 3 hours ago xd. But anyway that's not the topic ^^.

You're the one who started quoting pie charts in the topic to prove people don't vote for it.

What you typed doesn't make any sense already as I said there's 2 servers military area 24/7 so if people wanted to play it they just have to go on the military servers you just avoided my point and did an ariana grande aka they want it they got it.

Let's talk facts now the only server where military is played alot is the one in LA

Players in the Saxton Hale EU hate the map they just call it trash, useless ect but we need facts here cuz apprently "people vote it" when it is actually one of the less voted map on the Saxton Hale | EU

On the other servers ( The one in NY and the Saxton Hale | US)

The map is very debatable and can't even reach the 5% maybe because people in NY already have a military 24/7 server ? and just to say people in EU exist and we have different points of view / tastes from US players.

If people don't vote for it, then why does it get played? a certain percentage of the people must want it, not just the ones you have encouraged to come here and make accounts to support your viewpoint.

 

[Ijikaru]

You're the one who started quoting pie charts in the topic to prove people don't vote for it.

If people don't vote for it, then why does it get played? a certain percentage of the people must want it, not just the ones you have encouraged to come here and make accounts to support your viewpoint.

I'm talking about the EU server, a e and a u. And I don't even have 15 friends playing on skial so don't say anything dumb please lol.

"If people don't vote for it, then why does it get played?"

 

[Maddo]

I'm talking about the EU server, a e and a u. And I don't even have 15 friends playing on skial so don't say anything dumb please lol.

"If people don't vote for it, then why does it get played?"

If it don't get played, what you whining about?

 

[Ijikaru]

If it don't get played, what you whining about?

We can vote for only 5 maps so to have that <3 <3 <3 on our screen everys times there's a vote it remove a choice for a good map.

 

[Bottiger]

We can vote for only 5 maps so to have that <3 <3 <3 on our screen everys times there's a vote it remove a choice for a good map.

I don't understand what the problem is. If no one on the server likes it as you claim, it won't be voted for. If it is 1 out of 5 choices, then people will pick the other 4 if you think everyone hates it.

Removing a choice because you personally hate the map doesn't seem like a good idea to me. Some people don't want to play military area 24/7 but still like the map and don't want to switch to a different server.

 

[Ijikaru]

I don't understand what the problem is. If no one on the server likes it as you claim, it won't be voted for. If it is 1 out of 5 choices, then people will pick the other 4 if you think everyone hates it.

Removing a choice because you personally hate the map doesn't seem like a good idea to me. Some people don't want to play military area 24/7 but still like the map and don't want to switch to a different server.

Okay I don't "personally hate the map" (I have 250 hours on the military 24/7) as I said what is happening on the Saxton Hale | EU when military is voted (wich is rare) everyone switch on the other server until the map change and I can give you a list of people with 200 hours and + who would exactly say the same thing about military.

Then I understand your point too because on the LA server / NY server / US server people seems to enjoy the map. But it's really really not the case in EU we only have 2 Vsh servers so it's very easy for us to switch to one from another.

 

[TapTap]

EU when military is voted (wich is rare) everyone switch on the other server until the map change

I hope you see the logical fallacy here. If the map was picked, the majority voted for it.
Why would "everyone" switch when they could simply not vote for it?

Also, having a 24/7 for a map and playing the map for a few rounds are surely not mutually exclusive. Some people like the map enough to play a bit on it, but not on a 24/7. Suggesting that people switch servers is ridiculous. People play with friends and server hopping is inconvenient when the game rounds are around 9 minutes.

Just let it be. It's a vote option, and have "everyone" pick something else if they truly despise the map.

 

[Ijikaru]

I hope you see the logical fallacy here. If the map was picked, the majority voted for it.
Why would "everyone" switch when they could simply not vote for it?

Also, having a 24/7 for a map and playing the map for a few rounds are surely not mutually exclusive. Some people like the map enough to play a bit on it, but not on a 24/7. Suggesting that people switch servers is ridiculous. People play with friends and server hopping is inconvenient when the game rounds are around 9 minutes.

Just let it be. It's a vote option, and have "everyone" pick something else if they truly despise the map.

Because it put players in EU who are escaping military to have no other server on skial where they can have fun if they don't want to play on this map. (cuz as I already said there's only 2 VSH servers in EU)

 

[Ijikaru]

I hope you see the logical fallacy here. If the map was picked, the majority voted for it.
Why would "everyone" switch when they could simply not vote for it?

Also, having a 24/7 for a map and playing the map for a few rounds are surely not mutually exclusive. Some people like the map enough to play a bit on it, but not on a 24/7. Suggesting that people switch servers is ridiculous. People play with friends and server hopping is inconvenient when the game rounds are around 9 minutes.

Just let it be. It's a vote option, and have "everyone" pick something else if they truly despise the map.

Plus I would like to add because you said "Suggesting that people switch servers is ridiculous." yes we are actually switching servers when the map is voted even if we are with friends I can give a few exemple. When I play with geekeuse we do change, zaf & kellie do change, upper change or beg for a rtv, Tru Darkian ask people to rtv for 10 minutes or change and the list continue like that.