(cYs) Del Piero

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This post will get updated as the discussion goes on

Problems on trade servers:
  • An increasing number of micspammers.
  • A lack of admin presence
  • Griefing / trolling (especially during spycrabs)
  • Scamming
  • On US20 people trade weapons and other low items.
I propose four. new rules to our trade server:
  • Using the Voice Chat for insults or other kind of spam should not be allowed and result in a temp. ban. On other trade servers (Rawr, TF2-Trader bans for micspam and insulting go from 3 days to 1 week for the first time doing it). The voice chat should only be used for trading, spycrabbing or other relevant topics. Chatting should only be allowed if nobody uses the voice chat otherwise and if it doesn't bother other users.
  • If two people spycrab then others are not allowed to interfere the spycrabbing. It's most annoying if a third player decides to troll the spycrabbing. Example for people interefering the spycrabbing are people killing the two spys or people pushing them around.
  • If a steamrep scammer tries to remove his [SCAMMER] tag by doing a name change he should get banned.
  • Free To Play Accounts are not allowed to join.
Other suggestions:
  • On the unusual hat trade server, US20, killing should not be allowed. People should trade there and do spycrabs. If they want to play they should join other servers. This can either be enforced by giving god-mod to all players or by making all players join the same team. If some one tries to one the other team he gets automatically changed to team Blue. If someone wants to be able to die then he can use the /buddah command. Buddah still doesn't solve some griefing problems where
  • !rep command. It can be found on many trade servers. The purpose of it is to check someones rep at www.steamrep.com Example: !rep piero --> my steamrep opens.
  • A higher admin presence on trade servers is required as well. Anya, Airakah and Roman muted/banned severall players in the last days who scammed or spammed the chat. Admins should not refuse to join trade servers if there is a problem even if they don't trade themselves. When Cinic was admin, he used to join the second after I called him. Every admin should act like this.
  • People who don't trade unusuals or other high-end (promo-)items such as Buds, Bills, Maxs, Houwars and others, should be warned and hinted to our other trade servers. Someone selling weapons or doing scrapbanking should not join an Unusual Hat Trade Server. If they don't leave other measurements should be taken (kick, temporary ban if the person rejoins).
  • No begging
  • Adding !jetpack
Summary(this will get updated as the discussion goes on)
In my eyes:
  • Most agree that we need to protect spycrabbing games.
  • Nobody has disagreed with that SteamRep scammers renaming themselves should get an instant ban
  • Putting all people in 1 team would be better than buddah. Buddah is better than nothing though. The majority agrees on that the solution could look like this: http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/6239/screenshot20120115at152.png
  • The !rep command was already present. Nobody happend to know that. It is !sr
  • Nobody disagreed with that we need a higher admin presence
  • There are mixed opinions about whether the voice chat should be used for trades only or not. The majority agrees that the chat can be used for other conversations if nobody is using the voice chat for trading. Once people use it for trading other conversations need to end. Weird noises and insults should not be tollerated
  • A slight majority agreed on that on US20 only Unusuals, High-End items and promos should be traded. People who don't trade unusuals should get waned and kicked. http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/1152/screenshot20120115at205.png
  • A Plugin is needed that kicks F2P when they try to join.
  • Nobody disagrees with that begging is annoying and that beggars should get kicked.
  • Everyone voted yes to add !jetpack
  • Also, a text box suggestion for unusual traders trading on normal trade servers would be great :) It'd direct them to the unusual trading server.
 
Replace "kicked" with "banned"
Banning is harsh and if you ban them then they cannot join all other Skial servers. This would not be a good idea. An autokick would help more. F2P should still be able to play on all other skial servers.

Free seeding for others to join.
If someone offers shitty weapons for an unsusual (look at Faron8) then that's pretty annoying.
I can understand if F2P seed on US2 or EU2:2020 but seeding on US20 as F2P?
 
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I think we are starting to come to a conclusion. the main problem right now is the admins. we are still under debate of which admin where and if we should add new ones. we have a lot of new people on the forums ( like me) but almost all to none would qualify to be a good admin. I think this is what we should focus on next. maybe in a different thread.
 
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I think we are starting to come to a conclusion. the main problem right now is the admins. we are still under debate of which admin where and if we should add new ones. we have a lot of new people on the forums ( like me) but almost all to none would qualify to be a good admin. I think this is what we should focus on next. maybe in a different thread.
Admin presence is important for keeping the servers in line, I agree.
 
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President Banana recently sent a Admin app. for Unusual trade. He has a day and a half on the server and he owns his own servers (Personal admin experience) and as far as i know he is the only one to apply for this server.
 
I get offered several weapons for my bill's hat then i'm like: it's not enough and you know it then they're like oh nvm most the times they're f2p. auto kick f2p would be fucking nice
 
I get offered several weapons for my bill's hat then i'm like: it's not enough and you know it then they're like oh nvm most the times they're f2p. auto kick f2p would be fucking nice
thats when we come back to the point of not even allowing F2P players in the server, but its the same idea.
 
I was on us20 this morning and it was just awful, people kept changing their names to mine and ignoring me when I asked them to stop. I ended up banning two people for it.
Us20 definitely needs an Admin.
 
Another reason why we should have everyone on 1 team is so enemies can't airblast people. Its almost as annoying as killing.

I was on us20 this morning and it was just awful, people kept changing their names to mine and ignoring me when I asked them to stop. I ended up banning two people for it.
Us20 definitely needs an Admin.

thanks
 
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There is too much griefing on the trade server, This need to be fixed. I witnessed constant griefing during spycrabs and it is too much. Mabye 2 - 3 trade admins that'll constantly be there would help.


Another reason why we should have everyone on 1 team is so enemies can't airblast people. Its almost as annoying as killing.

I agree as well.
 
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Even though people not trading unusuals would be maybe 80% of the server, they scare out the people that are because they are just taking up other peoples slots who do want to. Also for interfering with spycrabs should start with a slay and then a kick.
 
I always thought the trade servers with fine.

If anything you should bring back the Valve weapons for kicks =D
 
I have some proposals for rule changes that have come from this topic thus far. I'll work on a final draft when I get home tonight and we'll see what kind of consensus we can come to. DP, keep the OP updated so that I may refer to it, please.
 
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So where are we with this? We have gotten with Faron8 a trade admin but what about the other topics that were discussed?