Approved Change "Advertising Hacks..." PSA

[BBQ Prophet]

In game, it reads "Advertising hacks is considered spam which is not allowed"

According to the updated punishments list by KillerZebra, advertising hacks carries the same punishment as hacking; it even shares the same bulletin.

Hacking / advertising hacks

Therefore, I think it should read

• "Advertising hacks is a permanent offense"
• "Advertising hacks is considered hacking"
• "Advertising hacks is not allowed"
• "Advertising hacks is a permanent ban"

or something similar that presents it as a

major offense

rather than a

minor offense

 

[Tayto]

+1

 

[Meowrisa]

+1

 

[KillerZebra]

I think it gets the point accross that it isn't allowed

 

[Tayto]

I think it gets the point accross that it isn't allowed

There is no doubt that it does. The suggestion is to clarify how severe it is and what punishment you will be expected to receive for doing it since it is it's own class of offense.

 

[Blade D_Hero]

I think it gets the point accross that it isn't allowed

Yeah but the difference between a permanent ban and a one day ban for spam is pretty severe.

Also +1 I don't see why we shouldn't

 

[TapTap]

Yes. +1.

 

[T-Wayne]

I agree with this suggestion, change it to something that makes it obvious that we handle it equal to hacking itself please.

 

[StantoMacGuffin]

+1

 

[Meowcenary]

+1

 

[Katpolice]

+1

 

[JohnnyGaloshes]

-1Common knowledge that cheating will get you banned. No need to complicate it.

 

[Cowboy Crow]

Common knowledge

You have way too much faith into the human race.

 

[Sargent¥]

+1

 

[Meowcenary]

-1Common knowledge that cheating will get you banned. No need to complicate it.

There's people who advertise hacks that aren't cheating

Most of them are doing it in a non-serious or joking manner but its still advertising a hack

 

[Pizza For President]

+1

 

[Cream Tea]

+1

 

[BBQ Prophet]

If it were

Common knowledge

there would be no need for the PSA. I just want it to be accurate.

 

[Maddo]

-1 It is fair to say that advertising hacks is spam and should be treated as such, the severity and intention behind the spam should be reflected in the action taken by an admin.

 

[BBQ Prophet]

My point is that it's illogical for the rules and that PSA to contradict each other. I realize that punishments may vary based on the severity of the offense, but in the interest of communicating the actual application of punishments to offenses, it should be stated that advertising hacks is punished like hacking. If you disagree, then logically, you must be in favor of KillerZebra's list being changed.

You say

advertising hacks is spam and should be treated as such

However, that list says

The following major offenses will still result in a permanent punishment.

• Hacking / advertising hacks
• Posting illegal information/sprays
• Posting personal information without consent
• Scamming

Everything else will be considered a "minor offense" and will have a maximum of a one month punishment.

Again, the punishment can vary based on the offense, but spam is not on that list. It just doesn't present a clear message to players. My point is not that the system doesn't work; it's that it's confusing.

In fact, the Rules were updated this Wednesday, after this thread was created; see for yourself how it's presented:

Rules
These actions may result in bans, silences, or other punishments.

• Spamming
  • Reporting people that aren't breaking the rules.
  • Calling random votes, even on yourself.
• Hacking or advertising hacks.

I think it's pretty clear that advertising hacks isn't just spamming.