you can trust my hooves

Uncharitable Spy
Contributor
Hi,

I noticed a difficulty level change in bots at least on the EU Mountainlab server a few days ago. For my taste bots are way too hard to beat, and they always spawn as Medic-Combos (Heavy / Demo / Soldier). Demoman grenades are hitting nearly always, something that won't happen with many human players. As a lighter class, you have no chance against them. Please reduce the difficulty level. And perhaps there should be more bots than around 10 if very few human players are connected, so there is the opportunity to spawn as a lighter class without hurting the team too much.
 

Bottiger

Administrator
I'd like to hear more people's opinions on this.

From what people have told me before, bots are too easy even on expert, and they prefer to have as few bots as possible.
 

Bottiger

Administrator

Keep in mind that some bots are better than no bots especially for starting the server up. Our Saxton Hale/Fortwars/No crit No spread servers stay empty for vast amounts of time because you cannot play by yourself when you are the first person to connect.
 

you can trust my hooves

Uncharitable Spy
Contributor
They prefer as few bots as possible *if* there are enough human players. But if you are only 1 or 2 human players, you prefer a normal team size in my opinion. 10 players are very few, not much room for lighter classes.
 

Toxik

Moderator
Contributor
I'm a speaking pony, your argument is invalid.
You would be a TYPING pony.
And you are a (possibly) teenager identifying yourself with a show for 10 year old girls about magical ponies.

In order to stay on topic, bots are matter of opinion. If we make them easy, people will be tired killing them and whine about it. If we make them hard, people will be tired of getting killed and whine about them.
If we make them just right, half the people will whine about them being too easy and the other will whine about them being too hard.
 

[TC]CreepingDeath

Legendary Skial King
Contributor
I can speak AND type!
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KillerZebra

Forum Admin
Contributor
I'd like to hear more people's opinions on this.

From what people have told me before, bots are too easy even on expert, and they prefer to have as few bots as possible.

i dont really care. i personally find the bots way to easy. i do know in some servers we need them. some of them we don't/
 

wokmage

Positively Inhumane Poster
Contributor
I also find that bots are usually easier to beat than real players, mostly because of their predictability. I do enjoy the servers where there aren't any bots, but as Bottiger pointed out, playing with bots is almost always more fun than playing by yourself.
 

TheRaptor

Somewhat Threatening Sniper
I don't have a problem with the current bots. If these bots are on expert then they are still easy
 

(cYs) Del Piero

Notably Dangerous Demo-Knight
Contributor
Bots are too easy and they are dumb. On US29 when not many people are on then the bots go to shit classes like a medic healing a scout (both bots).
In my opinion their difficulty needs to be increased