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+1

new version is a lot more RED-sided and oversimplified.
I don't want this map to die out the way Dirtmound did.
 
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The previous version felt so much nicer to play on compared to this version.
 
in b4 admin says "just because literally everyone on this thread said +1 doesn't mean everyone agrees and um ackshually this is only like 15 people and doesn't represent the playerbase", completely ignoring everyone's opinion here and treating us like we don't matter.

seriously, why even bother allowing suggestions if you make the same shitty excuse every time



edit: oh yeah. "+1"
 
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in b4 admin says "just because literally everyone on this thread said +1 doesn't mean everyone agrees and um ackshually this is only like 15 people and doesn't represent the playerbase", completely ignoring everyone's opinion here and treating us like we don't matter.

seriously, why even bother allowing suggestions if you make the same shitty excuse every time



edit: oh yeah. "+1"

Dumb.

Also, this suggestion actually involves a broken aspect of the map that needs to be addressed.
 
in b4 admin says "just because literally everyone on this thread said +1 doesn't mean everyone agrees and um ackshually this is only like 15 people and doesn't represent the playerbase", completely ignoring everyone's opinion here and treating us like we don't matter.

seriously, why even bother allowing suggestions if you make the same shitty excuse every time

Because there are cases where we can tell the people here are wrong because we have the data (maps), and sometimes through simple logic (buffing humans when hale had a 20% win rate).

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And then there are some cases where we can't.
 
Because there are cases where we can tell the people here are wrong because we have the data (maps), and sometimes through simple logic (buffing humans when hale had a 20% win rate).

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And then there are some cases where we can't.
You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Who do you think you are? The owner of Skial? Pfft.
 
+1 The new Foreststation feels a bit off compared to it's original version, it's more of a downgrade similar to how Egyptyspot is now removing some areas, and the catapult bug didn't exist in the original version as well, so yes i like the old version of Foreststation a lot better, this version made it's playability tier ranking drop from it's S tier spot to a B tier spot along with the aforementioned Egyptyspot and Crevice.

people here are wrong because we have the data (maps)

This is very strange considering Cinema is still in rotation, you say it's popular but it's actually not, it's a struggle for the people playing in the server when it's on to even rtv off since it's a annoying majority vote to get off a garbage map and most of the time the people that actually like the map refuse to rtv and are friendly dependent and stall most of the time which drags rounds for no reason in which they hide often, do no damage or try to RPS Hale in which they get absolutely destroyed cause most of the Hales just want to kill all the reds on this map for wasting their time.

Also Cinema is just a bad map in general since VSH rank doesn't rely on Damage as it's main function anymore, it's suffering for Hale players to remotely move around the map unless you're playing Easter Bunny which pretty much gives you a free win because of how claustrophobic the rooms are, Red side has a almost braindead telefrag spot that basically happens every round in which ruin alot of Hale player rounds very quickly if said telefrag connects, players refusing to rtv even though they don't like the map (this part here is what frustrates me and my brain so much in which you don't like the map just rtv, like seriously....), and most of the time i just sit in spectate waiting for a rtv to pass and or map change otherwise i just leave the server completely to play something else entirely since i know most people just push F1 in the map vote menu to just get it out of their field of view when the time it shows up passes which is now the Map Extend option and having that god map extended is painful.
 
In b12 all the major layout changes have been reverted.

And what's wrong with the "catapult" bug? He got stuck in his building, then got a lot of momentum from being shot by his sentry. In a normal game you'd either not get launched, or use the wrangler to accomplish it (at which point you can just wrangler jump). I'll fix the stuck, but it's not as big of a problem as some of you are saying.
 
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Not to be rude, but this shows that Cinema isn't that popular as you claimed it is.
I don't actually know what you're trying to prove here. That's universal data and shows nothing about individual server statistics. The server is always full when it's cinema and there's a reason why it always wins votes. It sucks as a map for VSH, but it's one of the most popular maps for Skial's VSH server.