Diggs

Uncharitable Spy
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(We want regulars to comment on the applicant and how they would fair, not bitching about how nothing is happening)

Thank you. That was my point exactly. Five pages from regulars commenting and nothing happens except the current admins getting bent out of shape. ..and I'm wondering how long the servers stay up without "dumbass contributors" who help pay for them......
 

Toxik

Moderator
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Thank you. That was my point exactly. Five pages from regulars commenting and nothing happens except the current admins getting bent out of shape. ..and I'm wondering how long the servers stay up without "dumbass contributors" who help pay for them......
You were already told that applications take time. Unless we have an urgent need for admins in the timezone of the applicants, we have no reason to rush things and it makes much more sense to do a more thorough search of the applicant to see whether they would be a good fit.

I don't understand why you want him to immediately become admin just because you feel he is a good applicant. The only applicants that get priority are either ones in specific timezones, as mentioned before, or ones who submit a lot of reports and are trusted to have good judgement. Seeing as Beardo only has 2 reports and not in an understaffed time zone, he fits neither criteria, so he will have to wait for staff feedback. You are not helping his application in any way by bitching about the long wait. We want what is best for the community, and he will be considered the same as anyone else.
 

Diggs

Uncharitable Spy
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You were already told that applications take time. Unless we have an urgent need for admins in the timezone of the applicants, we have no reason to rush things and it makes much more sense to do a more thorough search of the applicant to see whether they would be a good fit.

Apologies for the "rush". I guess it's a matter of perspective. After 5 pages of discussion over the course of a month I guess my expectations differ. Skial works much slower than I'm used to seeing. Urgent? - Bottiger keeps messing with the respawn time trying to increase the hours the server is active. A welcoming admin helps that cause also.

Let's be clear - I don't know Beardo. We've said Hey a few times. I've gamed with Skial for years and have watched things grow lethargic on the TF2 servers and forums. Now someone wants to help breath a little more life into Dustbowl, one of my favorite old servers that has almost no admins on it, and I decided to speak up when it appears things have stalled. Now, everyone wants to get riled up. Not my intention...... ...again my apologies.
 

Toxik

Moderator
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Now someone wants to help breath a little more life into Dustbowl, one of my favorite old servers that has almost no admins on it, and I decided to speak up when it appears things have stalled
That does seem to be a sentiment that his supporters share, but one I'm also confused about. Admins definitely have no say in how the servers are run, and it seems that many people are supporting Beardo based on the assumption that he would be able to make any kind of change based on his/their preference, but the only person able to do any kind of adjustments is Bottiger, who has the final say in any server change. He does listen to admins' concerns, but it's not like whatever admins say goes, which is why a lot of support on this application has been kind of biased in my opinion, imagining that if Beardo becomes admin, they would be able to readjust the servers to their preferences.
 

Beardo

Notably Dangerous Demo-Knight
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That does seem to be a sentiment that his supporters share, but one I'm also confused about. Admins definitely have no say in how the servers are run, and it seems that many people are supporting Beardo based on the assumption that he would be able to make any kind of change based on his/their preference, but the only person able to do any kind of adjustments is Bottiger, who has the final say in any server change. He does listen to admins' concerns, but it's not like whatever admins say goes, which is why a lot of support on this application has been kind of biased in my opinion, imagining that if Beardo becomes admin, they would be able to readjust the servers to their preferences.

This entire statement is wrong. I've had no supporters who supported me because they think I have any say or can change the server back to the old spawn timers. The community is completely cut down the middle on that. Some enjoy it, some hate it. I believe all of my support comes from telling others to keep to the rules, helping new Skial players how to use the menus, and being very active and friendly in voice. I try to keep everybody involved in the game, and try to not keep anybody left out. I know what I contribute to the community, and its a fair bit of time and effort when I'm online.
 

Beardo

Notably Dangerous Demo-Knight
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Apologies for the "rush". I guess it's a matter of perspective. After 5 pages of discussion over the course of a month I guess my expectations differ. Skial works much slower than I'm used to seeing. Urgent? - Bottiger keeps messing with the respawn time trying to increase the hours the server is active. A welcoming admin helps that cause also.

Let's be clear - I don't know Beardo. We've said Hey a few times. I've gamed with Skial for years and have watched things grow lethargic on the TF2 servers and forums. Now someone wants to help breath a little more life into Dustbowl, one of my favorite old servers that has almost no admins on it, and I decided to speak up when it appears things have stalled. Now, everyone wants to get riled up. Not my intention...... ...again my apologies.

Ah it's alright, it takes time it seems. I really do appreciate all of the love though. I only hope to help out the community. If they want an active dustbowl admin who plays the game I'm here.
 

Zeo

TF2 Admin
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My own personal views and opinions of this community has changed over the past few months. There's no urgency for an admin in the server. Dustbowl is one of the most quiet servers minus a few trolls here and there.

An admin would be nice for presence and I get where these guys are coming from. I've played with Beardo for a long time and he's the absolute best admin candidate for dustbowl. If it takes time it doesn't matter because we're all going to be here for a while.

Lets all just concentrate on posting positives instead of making this application look like a shit show.
 
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Beardo

Notably Dangerous Demo-Knight
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This thread is like watching a turtle cross a highway, there's always that sense of disgust in the back of your mind

Any and all disgust in this APP has nothing to do with me or the app. It's just people fighting with the admins.

I did ask for the spam, and troll comments to be cleaned and removed from this thread, but it's not something that is going to be done.. even if it wasn't me, the applicant spamming or posting troll comments, or fighting with admins.

Please just close this App, and keep me in mind if you need an Admin. I have a few added, and I'm available to help out if needed. I don't plan to ever quit playing TF2, so the offer should be good for a long time.

I'll also make a new app sometime in the future.

Thanks.
 
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