Gamer4605

Banned
This would fix many of the issues in the map, and would make it more enjoyable for people as the map would be made easier, the map would need to be optimised for tf2 (making it easier for humans without frustrating zombie players) however a hard mode should be added which is just a direct copy of the csgo version (as it allows 50+ players, making it far easier than the tf2 version. Adding a hard mode would also retain popularity. Not removing trimping altogether and just fixing spots where it can be exploited will also retain popularity.

I am suggesting this as the majority of players have changed their opinions of this map calling it a bad map, and I am afraid the map may become unpopular if it is not fixed. I have come to the conclusion that the exploits are not the only problem, and the difficulty is also a problem for many people.
 

Jermaphobe

Moderator
Contributor
Legendary Mapper
We're no longer in contact with the mapper who ported Santa, and the VMF the mapper gave us was broken and refuses to give us the functioning VMF
 

Gamer4605

Banned
We're no longer in contact with the mapper who ported Santa, and the VMF the mapper gave us was broken and refuses to give us the functioning VMF
No not that guy I mean luffaren, and if he isn’t willing to fix it then get someone to remake the map from the ground up
 

caya1

Mildly Menacing Medic
#1 Luffaren doesn't work on tf2 maps, or make maps for tf2. Period.

#2 You say "get someone to remake the map from the ground up" like it's easy. It isn't.
 

LordM

Mildly Menacing Medic
No not that guy I mean luffaren, and if he isn’t willing to fix it then get someone to remake the map from the ground up
Luffaren already refused to fix the port, he doesn’t play TF2 so he wouldn’t care about porting it to TF2 anyway, and if he did port it he is probably not going to give the port to a community that ported his map without permission. Porting santassination from the ground up is something that nobody really wants to do. Santa is one of the most difficult maps to port from CSGO. Unless you are willing to get Luffaren’s permission to port the map yourself, most likely there is not going to be another port.
 

LordM

Mildly Menacing Medic
No not that guy I mean luffaren, and if he isn’t willing to fix it then get someone to remake the map from the ground up
We have a limited amount of mappers in this community that work on ZE, and we are already busy with a lot of stuff, and do not have time to spend porting a map like Santassination.
 

Gamer4605

Banned
#1 Luffaren doesn't work on tf2 maps, or make maps for tf2. Period.

#2 You say "get someone to remake the map from the ground up" like it's easy. It isn't.
Tbh I didn’t expect this to go anywhere i posted this last night when the entire server was shouting at me for nominating Santa and the people who did like it before now agree that it’s bad and I was stressing out thinking that the map was going to die
 

LordM

Mildly Menacing Medic
Tbh I didn’t expect this to go anywhere i posted this last night when the entire server was shouting at me for nominating Santa and the people who did like it before now agree that it’s bad and I was stressing out thinking that the map was going to die

It is the most popular map on the server.... how would it die?
 

Gamer4605

Banned
It is the most popular map on the server.... how would it die?
I was in a stressed mood as the entire server seemed to be against picking Santa at that time and I thought the map was going to die because people were losing patience with the map, I was wrong as literally the next day I join the server and they’re already on Santa.