Jermaphobe

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Please answer these questions to the best of your ability, feel free to use every resource (Skial Stats, Pinned threads, appeals,etc) available to you to answer these questions. Each question is not silence or ban specific, that means, one scenario may be a ban, another a silence, or nothing at all. If a punishment is necessary, use the correct command using the individual's SteamID3.

  1. Upper reports Metroidz for playing this song over voice in Hightower US with reasonable quality and volume. Should he be issued a punishment by an admin? If so, why?
  2. You're on Payload+ US and I says in chat "I should re-download lmaobox, brb". Should I be issued a punishment by an admin? If so, why?
  3. Toxik reports Feral Angel for abusing vote-ban on him. Toxik says Feral's reasoning for calling the vote was because he killed her. Should she be issued a punishment by an admin? If so, why?
  4. On Bottiger's 24/7 Idle/Trade, Ren threatens to DDOS ManaPig in chat. Should she be issued a punishment by an admin? If so, why?
 

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Anne has been a standup player for years, knows her shit on skial servers like most of the long time long time regs who've spent years there. Unlike Phantom
I can't think of anyone more deserving and someone who actually gives a shit, other than Anne.

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uppe-r

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I tried to dig up dirt on you Anne and didn't find anything, therefore you've got my blessing
+1
 

Maddo

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Playing Skial for 8 years without issue, has identified a current problem with bored kids coming to servers and acting up and wants to help address that, has a plethora of support from the onset. Seems genuine and nice.
+1
 

OrphAnne

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Upper reports Metroidz for playing this song over voice in Hightower US with reasonable quality and volume. Should he be issued a punishment by an admin? If so, why?
- Nothing wrong with this song over Hightower voice. It should be left to a server vote and Upper should be reminded of the mute/ignore feature. IF the song was inapproriate (N--R word) Metroidz would be punished for a racist song; IF the song was earrape levels, it would be a silence. Since it is what it is, no action necessary, game on.

You're on Payload+ US and I says in chat "I should re-download lmaobox, brb". Should I be issued a punishment by an admin? If so, why?
Using/advertising hacks, even joking, is against the rules. You should get a perma-ban.
Command: sm_ban "#[U:1:116254940]" 0 "using/advertise hacks"

Toxik reports Feral Angel for abusing vote-ban on him. Toxik says Feral's reasoning for calling the vote was because he killed her. Should she be issued a punishment by an admin? If so, why?
Look into Feral's voteban reasoning - if it really was just because Toxik killed her, it's vote abuse. She can sit out for a day and cool off.
Command: sm_ban “#[U:1:300277302]” 1440 “vote abuse”

On Bottiger's 24/7 Idle/Trade, Ren threatens to DDOS ManaPig in chat. Should she be issued a punishment by an admin? If so, why?
Making threats against skial/admins is a punishable offense, but not players. Ren gets a big warning at first, and a ban only if she goes through with it.
Command: sm_ban "#[U:1:273395704]" 0 "DDOS"
 
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Maddo

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Using/advertising hacks, even joking, is against the rules. You should get a perma-ban.
Really a permaban for that?
Making threats against skial/admins is a punishable offense, but not players. Ren gets a big warning at first, and a ban only if she goes through with it.
Why would you warn someone against something that isn't against the rules, and why would you ban someone for something that does not take place on the servers?
 

OrphAnne

Positively Inhumane Poster
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To be honest, I'm going to verbally warn first in most cases to remind people of the rules.

It is my understanding that trade servers are.. servers. (please clarify because in my answer I am not saying she is DDOSing him on her own time, not on a server.)

Hacking is a perma-bannable offense. Is Jerma joking out of his ass about LMAObox? Even then, still joking, still saying he's had it before, still advertising a specific hack.
 
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Maddo

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Attacking a server is not the same as attacking a private ip/individual. this would not be able to be done through a Skial server.
Mentioning a hack is not advertising it.
 

OrphAnne

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Is she attacking this person while on the trade server? Not the threat because that isn't against the rules. If she followed through with the threat and was DDOSing this individual, I should think it's bannable.

Mentioning anything by name is in some way an advertisement. It's not a link to get it, true.
 
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Jermaphobe

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Upper reports Metroidz for playing this song over voice in Hightower US with reasonable quality and volume. Should he be issued a punishment by an admin? If so, why?
- Nothing wrong with this song over Hightower voice. It should be left to a server vote and Upper should be reminded of the mute/ignore feature. IF the song was inapproriate (N--R word) Metroidz would be punished for a racist song; IF the song was earrape levels, it would be a silence. Since it is what it is, no action necessary, game on.
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You're on Payload+ US and I says in chat "I should re-download lmaobox, brb". Should I be issued a punishment by an admin? If so, why?
Using/advertising hacks, even joking, is against the rules. You should get a perma-ban.
Command: sm_ban "#[U:1:116254940]" 0 "using/advertise hacks"
Advertising hacks seriously or as a joke is a permanent ban, it has been for a while, but can be appealed if player states they will not advertise cheats again. It depends a lot on the context of the situation, most will warn players first before issuing a ban, or not take action at all depending on the situation.

Toxik reports Feral Angel for abusing vote-ban on him. Toxik says Feral's reasoning for calling the vote was because he killed her. Should she be issued a punishment by an admin? If so, why?
Look into Feral's voteban reasoning - if it really was just because Toxik killed her, it's vote abuse. She can sit out for a day and cool off.
Command: sm_ban “#[U:1:300277302]” 1440 “vote abuse”
Reasoning is correct, but for vote abuse sm_silence is necessary, not a ban.

On Bottiger's 24/7 Idle/Trade, Ren threatens to DDOS ManaPig in chat. Should she be issued a punishment by an admin? If so, why?
Making threats against skial/admins is a punishable offense, but not players. Ren gets a big warning at first, and a ban only if she goes through with it.
Command: sm_ban "#[U:1:273395704]" 0 "DDOS"
We don't punish/warn players for threatening to DDOS other players, only if players threaten staff or servers, especially servers. It is more difficult to obtain a private IP address than it is just pulling up Skial's server list for our public IPs, and we can't easily verify if a player is serious about the threat against the other player.
 

Maddo

Gaben's Own Aimbot
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Is she attacking this person while on the trade server? Not the threat because that isn't against the rules. If she followed through with the threat and was DDOSing this individual, I should think it's bannable.

Mentioning anything by name is in some way an advertisement. It's not a link to get it, true.
I think you misunderstand, you can't Ddos an individual on a server, you would need to attack their private ip and this couldn't be done through Skial severs. Using admin powers on the server to punish for something done off the server is not allowed.
If mentioning something by name was always defined as advertising, then jermaphobe should get a warning for mentioning it on the forums as "server rules also apply to the forums". As jermaphobe rightly points out, it's all about context.
I still think you will make a decent admin
 

bloofus

Uncharitable Spy
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great person in-game, seems to try and uphold server rules, good candidate. Updoot.
 

Xantam

Server-Clearing Cynic
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The answers were a little off in my opinion however the sheer amount of feedback you have received so far has to be taken into account, and your answers are on the right lines even though they are a little off. That to me is indeed the makings of a potential staff member, and moreso - someone I'd consider putting forward as a potential staff member.

The staff recruitment for TF2 usually takes time though, I'm unsure why this was bumped to "reviewing" when it's not been reviewed yet (your time, chatlogs, etc etc etc) and only open less than 24 hours, so I'll remove that tag for now. Once someone has done the basic checks it can be re-applied. If this isn't done by tomorrow afternoon I'll do it.