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CiNiC to Stay Admin?

  • Yes

    Votes: 60 69.8%
  • No

    Votes: 26 30.2%

  • Total voters
    86
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I think that if he is willing to work on his attitude (which he is, I've even noticed that it's gotten much better in the last week or so) then he should be given another chance, maybe a last chance...but another at least. A month with admin back, see if he improves at all. Maybe what he needed was this, as a wake up call.
Anya, the problem is that the Bottiger's warning Jwso mentioned was issued more than 1 month ago. That's probably why Bottiger is not willing to give CiniC second "second" chance.

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Anya, the problem is that the Bottiger's warning Jwso mentioned was issued more than 1 month ago. That's probably why Bottiger is not willing to give CiniC second "second" chance.

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The reason that was given to me was,
"You banned that person for votespamming and made up an excuse saying you thought the alltalk vote was to kick you. 2 votes in 6 minutes isn't even close to votespamming. How many other bans from you were like this except the victim didn't complain about it? If we can't trust you to be fair on a ban like this, how can we trust your other bans?"

Not for flaming. The authenticity of my bans was in question, and that was the reason given for my ban. I am saying that isn't true, especially since the person would have been temp banned anyway, AND we both came to a peaceful conclusion.
 
Backtracking this conversation to one of the last valid points against Cinic.
I'm a manager and have 32 people working under me. I had a supervisor who worked for me who knew his job inside and out and did it very well. His problem was his attitude and mood swings. I fired him. People who are in a position of power NEED to be mature, honest & stable. There is more to being a supervisor (in this case, an admin) than just doing the job.
... Ok. Heres the thing. Those things I bolded are only partially necessary. There's a simple, and necessary reason for this:
People in supervision, managerial, and yes, admin positions need to be able to effectively be liked by both the community, be considered responsible by the "boss", and still get the job done. I bet that supervisor you fired simply forgot switch back to his "responsible" position.

All of the admins her have to switch between "fun mode", "work mode", and " O crap, Bottiger's actually watching me" mode. All of our admins are efficient at doing this, and do it often. See Toxic's above post? He's an admin. CD jokes around with the best of us, but still is attempting to keep this tread on track. Roman enjoys poking fun at people just as much as Toxic. Classy is a troll, like Toxic and most admins are at some point. Zebra likes to taunt after some kills. Cinic rages hard at people in game.

The problem with an online "job" is that you have to do all of these things within the eye of each group you change modes with. I like the fact that the admins are fun, it makes them feel more approachable. However, if you have a problem, EVERY admin, including Cinic, will quickly switch to "work mode" and help you solve it. Then, if Bottiger needs to talk to them they have to switch to being his right hands. All of which is visible to everyone. The fact that they sometimes do things that does not agree with being an admin is how this has to work.

Cinic's way of playing the game and being with the community is just a louder way, but in NO WAY effects his performance. It's simple part of having this job.
 
I can honestly say I did not expect all this bullshit drama by making what I thought was a "small" complaint. Had I known about any of the previous incidents (direwulf, etc), I probably wouldn't have made the complaint. I would have known the admins already knew about his behavior.

You guys obviously have some deep roots with each other, I dig it.
 
Get out or stop causing drama
Pierot I don't think I'm causing drama, I'm just defending myself against trolls....the best way to fight a troll is troll back. The fact that you are one of the worst trolls on these forums...I dunno bro...you are standing on a wooden peg leg, and it's on fire.
 
Pierot I don't think I'm causing drama, I'm just defending myself against trolls....the best way to fight a troll is troll back. The fact that you are one of the worst trolls on these forums...I dunno bro...you are standing on a wooden peg leg, and it's on fire.
Enough. Trolls are gonna troll. Moreover, you have no chances against sophisticated trolls of Skial :D So just leave this topic.

I personally think that enough was said in this thread and everyone who wanted to vote has voted. Thus, this thread should be closed.
 
Enough. Trolls are gonna troll. Moreover, you have no chances against sophisticated trolls of Skial :D So just leave this topic.

I personally think that enough was said in this thread and everyone who wanted to vote has voted. Thus, this thread should be closed.
I don't know you either psycho realm, and I'm not sorry that I'm not going to take any crap from someone online. I agree completely that a lot of his drama is needless, but we all love our own press right? And btw, I played World of Warcraft for 2 years, I've met trolls that drive big jumbo jets they are so sophisticated, I think I can deal with the toddlers on here.
 
I don't know you either psycho realm, and I'm not sorry that I'm not going to take any crap from someone online. I agree completely that a lot of his drama is needless, but we all love our own press right? And btw, I played World of Warcraft for 2 years, I've met trolls that drive big jumbo jets they are so sophisticated, I think I can deal with the toddlers on here.
I understand that, buddy, but seriously there is no need to flame up all this stuff all over again. Time to let it go and move forward. Let's play TF2 and enjoy the game.
 
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