Hakurei Reimu - Ban Request

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Oldfart

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I request that the ban to Hakurei Reimu be reinstated. In my opinion he is clearly cheating.

Proof of aimbot:


This video is in slow motion at 1/8 speed, the real game time is about 3 seconds. You can see how the aimbot is trigered when firing, and it goes for the head of the nearest enemy player near the aim cursor.

All the cheating player has to do is aim in the general direction of an enemy, the aimbot does the rest.

As can be seen, the aimbot moves to the enemy head, then moves back to where it was. This happens so fast, that you will miss it in normal play.

I am presenting only one instance, but this happens all the time with this player kills. I have the dem file if required.

Wallhack/radar proof:


This was captured on Skial ctf_turbine server.

Watch the BLU scouts.

At 0:11 a BLU scout comes out of BLU base

At 0:29 a BLU scout makes it to RED base

At 0:35 player is checking out what happened to BLU scout in RED base. In dem file, you can see scout gets killed right in RED spawn by vents entrance. He just seems to be staring at the wall, but since he can see players thru walls, he is checking out the action back at his base. Maybe at that point he also notices the scout near intel, that he goes after at 0:40.

At 0:38 another BLU scout makes it to RED base

At 0:40, with no explanation why, player decides to go hunt a BLU scout near RED intel. Even before he can see the scout, he is pointing in the general direction where the scout is located.

At 0:51 player is waiting for scout to show up again, but not at ledge height, but at normal floor height. How does he know the scout is not on the ledge anymore?

At 0:59 player does a 180 to check the friendly spy coming in, how did he know?

At 1:02 we can see aimbot in action trying to kill scout.

At 1:05 again aimbot that can be seen in more detail in slow motion aimbot video

Here is the dem file:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/j1ao9i

Both videos are taken from this recorded demo

UPDATE:

Here is another video. not a head shot kill, but again that strange jerkiness at the moment of firing, and back to the original position again. This video is 1/10 slow motion, so its actually like 2,5 seconds game play.

Keep that in mind, that one second "moves to shoot and moves back", its actually 1/10 of a second.


UPDATE 2:

Another slow motion video at 1/10 speed, this one is right at the end of the round, same recorded demo.

As you can see, same thing: player aims at the general direction of the enemy player, presses fire, aimbot kicks in, snaps to enemy head, snaps back to where it was, about 1/10 of a second in total.


So with this one is 3 instances of the same "modus operandi" and not a random suspicious shot. I rest my case.
 
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I have to agree... Especially that last shot at 1:05 in the full video (and slowed down) does look like an aimbot in action. I'd like to get more opinions on this before any of us do anything.
 
Rvsz said:
Another demo was discussed before:
http://www.skial.com/threads/hakurei-reimu-unbanned.16362/#post-167662
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Yes Rvsz, I would have posted there, but that thread was closed. I was one of the players that was watching the events unfold in the server when Roman initally (and correctly in my opinion) banned him.

I did not know the player was unbanned after that, until I saw him playing again last night. A friend pointed me to that original thread.

Since I hate cheaters, I went to all the trouble of recording a demo, creating the videos, and posting the facts I believe are true.
 
Oldfart said:
As can be seen, the aimbot moves to the enemy head, then moves back to where it was. This happens so fast, that you will miss it in normal play.
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could just be twitch aiming, i can pull off shots like that; shots like that in the normal speed could be a sketchy aimbot+triggerbot, but in the slowmo version it looks more like he drags his crosshair to where it originally was, rather than it instantaneously reappearing where it left off.

definitely sketchy, but nothing concrete. i've seen really pro players do more dubious shit than this.
 
A good bit can be explained away though as well.

0:35 Drive isn't working for me, so I can't confirm this.
0:40 He moves around a good bit and all he's really doing is looking at that hall
0:59 Sounds like the friendly spy fired a shot at him, that's a pretty good reason to turn around (if he WAS hacking, wouldn't he know that was a friendly spy?)
1:01 That scout took him by surprise, he had no idea where it was exactly
1:02 I don't see anything at that point
1:05 Yes that shot was really suspicious, but occasionally people pull off suspicious shots. One isn't a problem, it's when you see them again and again that you know.

In this demo as well as the one in the other thread, there are defiantly points were having wallhacks or an aimbot would have been beneficial to keeping him alive. What? Is he choosing to not hack so he can die?
 
CiNiC said:
Inconclusive.
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Will you be so kind as to elaborate please? I understand that the proof presented here could be viewed as circumstantial evidence, but it´s not like I had to spec the player for days to get this evidence. I just went to the server, recorded a demo, got out.

He does this all the time, suspicious and impossible headshots, knowing where each and every enemy player is, suspiciously high situational awareness. Just log in any time he is playing and watch him. How do you think I got suspicious of him in the first time and started to spec him? The third time he pulled a headhsot out of nowhere when i was a spy and was on the other side of the map and he had to turn all the way around to shoot me, all in less than half a second, the way he always knew where cloaked spies where.

When a spy was introduced to test him, when Roman was checking him out, I was specing, and thought "now they got him" Why? Because the spy was barely decloaking for a split second right in his field of view, and he did nothing! He did nothing, because his cheat allowed him to see the name of the spy, and he already knew he was being tested an he was supposed to not be able to see clocked spies! So he was playing dumb. But he shure went after the other spy that was not part of the test.
 
OakyTree said:
A good bit can be explained away though as well.

0:35 Drive isn't working for me, so I can't confirm this.
0:40 He moves around a good bit and all he's really doing is looking at that hall
0:59 Sounds like the friendly spy fired a shot at him, that's a pretty good reason to turn around (if he WAS hacking, wouldn't he know that was a friendly spy?)
1:01 That scout took him by surprise, he had no idea where it was exactly
1:02 I don't see anything at that point
1:05 Yes that shot was really suspicious, but occasionally people pull off suspicious shots. One isn't a problem, it's when you see them again and again that you know.

In this demo as well as the one in the other thread, there are defiantly points were having wallhacks or an aimbot would have been beneficial to keeping him alive. What? Is he choosing to not hack so he can die?
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And why I said that we shouldn't do anything without more opinions. :)

We'll definitely keep an eye out for him to see if the sketchy stuff starts building up, but as it is now, it's just some odd looking shots that are probably just fine.
 
OakyTree said:
A good bit can be explained away though as well.

0:35 Drive isn't working for me, so I can't confirm this.
0:40 He moves around a good bit and all he's really doing is looking at that hall
0:59 Sounds like the friendly spy fired a shot at him, that's a pretty good reason to turn around (if he WAS hacking, wouldn't he know that was a friendly spy?)
1:01 That scout took him by surprise, he had no idea where it was exactly
1:02 I don't see anything at that point
1:05 Yes that shot was really suspicious, but occasionally people pull off suspicious shots. One isn't a problem, it's when you see them again and again that you know.

In this demo as well as the one in the other thread, there are defiantly points were having wallhacks or an aimbot would have been beneficial to keeping him alive. What? Is he choosing to not hack so he can die?
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OakyTree: let me put it this way: he is a cheater, not an idiot. If he was invincible, he would last like 2 seconds in the server. When you cheat, and you are smart and don´t want to be discovered, your tweak your cheating software settings so they are as humanized as possible, and sometimes you just play dumb, so as not to get caught.

Regarding 1:05, I just posted that one instance, but if you take the time to analyze the demo, you can find at least 3-4 shots like that. Should I create slo-mo videos of all of them?
 
Personally it looks way too shady too me. The mouse sensitivity appears to be fairly low because it seems like it's taking them 2-3 distinct mouse swipes to make a full turn when moving ordinarily... and that INSTANT headshot at 1:05...

I've seen this cat on turbine more and more over the past weeks, the reg's all seem to think it's cheating. Friday (I believe?) was the original Ban, and yes I think he/she knew they were being watched. Saturday I recall it got brought up again and an entire army of people went in (under aliases) to check it out. I think the verdict was still undecided?

If you've got a dozen people in there all of a sudden with names nobody has ever seen in there before, methinks it's going to be obvious enough that they're being watched... especially because they were already briefly banned before. Unfortunately the majority of the turbiners have never visited the forums and don't realize their input would be appreciated. I'll see what I can do about getting some of them to check out these videos and see if they have any input that can add to this.

It would be a shame if a legit person got banned for hacking when they weren't, but this guy/gal is chasing off newcomers who would ordinarily bookmark the server and come back. Nobody wants to play with hackers.

(Watching it again I noticed that same exact snap-shot on a spy at the very very end. Darts to the left, headshot, and instantly darts back.)
 
Oldfart said:
Will you be so kind as to elaborate please? I understand that the proof presented here could be viewed as circumstantial evidence, but it´s not like I had to spec the player for days to get this evidence. I just went to the server, recorded a demo, got out.

He does this all the time, suspicious and impossible headshots, knowing where each and every enemy player is, suspiciously high situational awareness. Just log in any time he is playing and watch him. How do you think I got suspicious of him in the first time and started to spec him? The third time he pulled a headhsot out of nowhere when i was a spy and was on the other side of the map and he had to turn all the way around to shoot me, all in less than half a second, the way he always knew where cloaked spies where.

When a spy was introduced to test him, when Roman was checking him out, I was specing, and thought "now they got him" Why? Because the spy was barely decloaking for a split second right in his field of view, and he did nothing! He did nothing, because his cheat allowed him to see the name of the spy, and he already knew he was being tested an he was supposed to not be able to see clocked spies! So he was playing dumb. But he shure went after the other spy that was not part of the test.
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Get more and better demos, then. I wouldn't be comfortable having us ban based on this.
 
Oldfart said:
OakyTree: let me put it this way: he is a cheater, not an idiot. If he was invincible, he would last like 2 seconds in the server. When you cheat, and you are smart and don´t want to be discovered, your tweak your cheating software settings so they are as humanized as possible, and sometimes you just play dumb, so as not to get caught.

Regarding 1:05, I just posted that one instance, but if you take the time to analyze the demo, you can find at least 3-4 shots like that. Should I create slo-mo videos of all of them?
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I watched the demo and there are no shots nearly like that one. That particular shot was close range, decent distance between where he was originally aiming and where the target was, then back.

Feel free to make videos of those other shots, but I didn't see anything else nearly as damning as the one at 1:05.

Yes people can do their damnedest to act like they're not hacking, which does make it insanely difficult to tell. We can't catch everyone. We also can't go around banning every person that plays on our servers just because they're good. This evidence just like all the rest simply isn't obvious enough to be sure that he is in fact hacking.

Check that guy's hours in TF2, then check them in games like TF2. Now look into his steam ID, he's never once been banned anywhere else with that steamID for hacking. Same goes for his IP.
 
From that second video from 1:01 on, it is apparent he is doing some kind of hacking.....Do you see how he snaps to the scout then turns so quickly that the walls glitch out? Even with my top mouse senseitivity, I have never been able to do THAT. The only thing saving this guy from being obvious is the large time in TF2, however, I still believe he is hacking. I have seen bette snipers than him that cannot pull off the kind of stuff he does. Other than hacking, he has some kind of sensetivity script, sound script that turns down everything than footsteps, gunfire and cloak sounds...I know, I have uncloaked about 100 feet behind him as a invisiwatch - saharen spy...and he still heard me. My verdict is that he is a hacker, this is intensified by the fact that he NEVER once tried to defend himself in-game.
 
OakyTree said:
I watched the demo and there are no shots nearly like that one. That particular shot was close range, decent distance between where he was originally aiming and where the target was, then back.

Feel free to make videos of those other shots, but I didn't see anything else nearly as damning as the one at 1:05.
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I haven't watched the demo yet (will shortly) but at the very, very end of the second video- AFTER 'Victory' you can see him do the same instant snap-headshot-and back against the spy by the crate. I didn't notice the first time because it was after victory... but it looks to be the exact same type thing as that scout before.
 
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