Approved [US Payload+] Add pl_cashworks

[hug sports]

Cashworks is one of the best custom payload maps and is played all the time on other community servers with overwhelming positive feedback. It's a fun and balanced map with a lot of variety. Plus we need more maps on the server, I feel like there's been a bunch that got removed and nothing replaced them.

https://gamebanana.com/mods/71757

 

[hep]

CASHWORKS OFFICIAL NOW! LET'S GO! It would be a real shame if I have to play on valve servers just to get a cashworks fix.

 

[LuggageBandit]

CASHWORKS WHEN!?!?!?!

 

[Jarshh]

+1 plz >:)

 

[mr enderman 22]

cashworks is officially a tf2 map, now bottiger has no choice but to add it

 

[mr enderman 22]

cashworks is officially a tf2 map, now bottiger has no choice but to add it

because of the update, his arguement about how its "unpopular" is now invalid

 

[Sore]

 

[Jermaphobe]

Goldrush, an official map, was never in the rotation for a very long time because some bug in the map caused it to crash the server with 32 players. The only reason it came back on the rotation was a fix on being implemented to prevent the crash

Being an official map means little, to nothing.

 

[Oosik]

I will now move my +1 to a -1 because now it's just funny.

 

[PoomBa]

mY+2

 

[hug sports]

I love how pl_pheonix was added but not pl_cashworks :(

 

[Oosik]

It's like the map was added after the bots pathing and navmeshing was done. Almost like the thing you wanted done within the server is being done. Be patient lol.

 

[hug sports]

It's like the map was added after the bots pathing and navmeshing was done. Almost like the thing you wanted done within the server is being done. Be patient lol.

1. Skial already has the bot pathing and everything required for cashworks to be on the server, because cashworks was already a map that was in the rotation a few years ago. There is no significant additional work that needs to be done to add it.
2. This thread has been open for over 8 months, and I rallied tons of community and donating members to support this addition, and it's basically been ignored.

 

[Oosik]

While I understand that the bot pathing and "Everything" is done for the map; I actually talked with Bottiger himself yesterday, had a fairly civil conversation and he wanted the navmeshes redone on the map for cashworks. In fact while talking to him he was working on Pheonix at that time while also showing me screenshots of instances of navmeshing not being properly set/edits needed to be made.

I told him I was interested and he took time out of his day show me examples and instances where the navmesh needed to be fixed or edited over. Which I'm currently in the process of editing those navmeshes for bottiger to review.

8 months is a lot of time, yes. But complaining after a map is finally added won't improve anything. Granted, in this scenario both sides of this mapping argument are wrong.

But a spiteful comment like that isn't the solution.

 

[hug sports]

While I understand that the bot pathing and "Everything" is done for the map; I actually talked with Bottiger himself yesterday, had a fairly civil conversation and he wanted the navmeshes redone on the map for cashworks. In fact while talking to him he was working on Pheonix at that time while also showing me screenshots of instances of navmeshing not being properly set/edits needed to be made.

I told him I was interested and he took time out of his day show me examples and instances where the navmesh needed to be fixed or edited over. Which I'm currently in the process of editing those navmeshes for bottiger to review.

8 months is a lot of time, yes. But complaining after a map is finally added won't improve anything. Granted, in this scenario both sides of this mapping argument are wrong.

But a spiteful comment like that isn't the solution.

Thank you for reaching out and talking to him, these are amazing steps for getting some of the work done. It would be great if we were kept in the loop about what work and what blocades exist so that people can help out. Without a comment like yours we would have never known. A little transparency goes a long way towards avoiding spite.

 

[Oosik]

I would argue in this case initiative is more important than transparency.

 

[RicEnder545]

+1

 

[Bottiger]

Thank you for reaching out and talking to him, these are amazing steps for getting some of the work done. It would be great if we were kept in the loop about what work and what blocades exist so that people can help out. Without a comment like yours we would have never known. A little transparency goes a long way towards avoiding spite.

I already said in this thread that the nav meshes need to be redone. Just because we used an auto-generated one before doesn't mean anything. The bots will get stuck and people will not fill up the server in the morning because a 12v12 became a 1v12.

And the AFK bot waypoints aren't even done yet so afk players we send to seed the server will just stack up in spectate.

You are not aware of how important it is and how much effort is spent to make sure the server fills up in the morning.

 

[hep]

Well the map is on the server now. So we can finally stop complaining about it.

 

[Presto]

This thread can finally be put to rest

 

[PoomBa]

I already said in this thread that the nav meshes need to be redone. Just because we used an auto-generated one before doesn't mean anything. The bots will get stuck and people will not fill up the server in the morning because a 12v12 became a 1v12.

And the AFK bot waypoints aren't even done yet so afk players we send to seed the server will just stack up in spectate.

You are not aware of how important it is and how much effort is spent to make sure the server fills up in the morning.

Booty Danke !