Mark
Notably Dangerous Demo-Knight
You're a very hard person to remain civil towards.
"So what you are NOW saying is Mr. Changey McOpinion (Mark) Is that it is OK for kids to be exposed to some bad shit some of the time, but not all of the time."
1. No, what I'm saying is that kids are going to be exposed to bad shit, but that's just a part of life. I don' think (at least not with video games) that this a matter that should be solved by ensuring that kids NEVER play these games. Instead of trying to control who they interact with socially, we should be having the parents and adults educating them on how the internet works, or at least how to use the basic functions of a computer.
"You're treating all kids as compotent individuals that A) know how to work a computer, B) are not emotionally unstable, and C) are not immature to the point of a babby pooping its knickers."
1. No I'm not. My argument wasn't that all kids should be like this, my argument was that most kids have atleast on of these components, and that just one of these components would have been enough to prevent the situation. The fact is, such was not the case, but for someone that plays online games (even just casually) this is extremely rare.
"But the fact of the matter is kids, like Risen Demon's example, can be hurt if they are not stable or ready. We should have some minimum of protection for said kids so they don't hurt themselves or are not emotionally traumatized by certain elements of this game."
1. I agree, but I don't think the burden of protecting the kids is on the game, it's creater, or the people that facilitate it's servers. Because in the end, it would be denying the right to enjoy the game to many people who will never have any sort of problems from it. Keep in mind, if the rule that is being disscussed was already in place, people like Classy would have never been able to join the community in the first place. Is that really what you want?
"But the fact that you are not willing to take one preventative measure for the welfare of children, as minor as saying "wair a helmet" you're throwing all caution to the wind and exposing them to an unnecessary amount of danger."
1. "an unnecessary amount of danger"? As I stated before, that's like saying you're exposing a person to an unnecessary amount of danger by letting them ride a plane. Sure, sometimes something bad will happen, but the solution is not to ban plane travel. And I have made points on how this situation could have been avoided, it could have been as simple as going to his brother or parents and asking how to turn off the sound, or he could have decided to walk away, but that didn't happen. It's the parents job to ensure that the kids are educated and prepared for stuff like this, but this still could have been stopped by the kid himself.
"Moderation, my friend, is something you really need to look up."
Your suggestion of a plugin that would prevent people of a certain age from playing the game is not what I would call "moderation." I would call it over the top with very little room for changes that would make it even some what useable.
You know Badguy, I'm not saying kids shouldn't have some protection from things like this, that's fine. But that's up to the parents, we could solve all these problems with a little bit of parental initiative, and a self-improving attitude.
