Respawning As Admin In Jailbreak

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Sir Profit, Jan 2, 2017.

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Should admins be allowed to respawn after they were freekilled?

  1. Yes Allowed To Respawn

    66.7%
  2. No And Get Rid Of The Rule

    55.6%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Sir Profit

    Sir Profit Scarcely Lethal Noob

    Steam:

    In jailbreak if an admin gets freekilled they should not be able to respawn after slaying that person. Also side note if that stays a thing you should do, admins should respawn everyone that got freekilled.
     
    • Dumb Dumb x 2
  2. Sir Profit

    Sir Profit Scarcely Lethal Noob

    Steam:

    Admins if you're going to be greedy and vote yes at least say why in the comments.
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
  3. Dave

    Dave TF2 Admin Contributor

    Steam:

    I am not sure what admin is just spawning self in, But in the case of respawning players back in after someone gets free killed, It is a case by case scenario and what the admin can process at that moment to keep the round fun and moving.

    For me - I have had many players (cry wolf) that they had got free killed (but was not) just to try to get spawned back in..If I don't see it or does not make sense at that time than it did not happen. Otherwise would be respawning all team back in. Most of the time I would let the round end and deal with the freekiller.

    Thats just me, I do not speak for the other admins.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  4. Luke

    Luke TF2 Admin

    Steam:

    @Sir Profit As was explained to you yesterday by myself and everyone else on the server, if an admin knows, without any doubt, that someone was freekilled - they should slay the freekiller and respawn the falsely killed person.

    In this instance, I was freehit and declared very clearly in chat that I was freehit and that I was going to hit back. Upon doing this, you killed me... which you had no reason to do, as it was explained very clearly. You then tried to argue that I had ammo and your fellow Guards and Warden stated that I did not, as I did not drop any.

    What Dave has said above is exactly the reason why we need to know for sure that someone was freekilled. Players often say they were freekilled because they do not know how to play.

    When an admin is freekilled, they know for sure that they were freekilled - and therefore, it is easy to resolve. However for other players, it is more difficult.

    This suggestion should be marked as Declined, as - as outlined - there is no issue here. If an admin knows someone was freekilled, they respawn them and slay the killer. This does not always happen when someone is freekilled because:
    1. We need to know for certain, otherwise it could impact the round massively
    2. We need to be on the server at the time in order to do this
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Informative Informative x 1
  5. Sir Profit

    Sir Profit Scarcely Lethal Noob

    Steam:

    See there lies the problem you spawned yourself in, but later people asked you to spawn them in and you did not give two ***** (I don't know if i'm allowed to curse on forums). Even though you free killed me one round cause i free hit back to one of your guards cause he air blasted then didn't respond to me until the end of the round.
     
    • Optimistic Optimistic x 1
  6. Luke

    Luke TF2 Admin

    Steam:

    As I said, we need concrete proof that someone was freekilled - we can't do it simply because "people asked you to".

    The Jailbreak Rules clearly state:
    In your situation given, you did not state in chat that you were freehit - you just started hitting the Guard.
    You should declare clearly in chat that you were freehit and are going to hit back - as I did.
     
  7. Sir Profit

    Sir Profit Scarcely Lethal Noob

    Steam:

    If you know they have been free killed for example if a lot of people say it or you saw it.
     
  8. Luke

    Luke TF2 Admin

    Steam:

    If we've seen it and know it was a freekill, no problem... that's easy.
    We cannot work from hearsay, as people could have numerous friends on the server.
    There have been instances when players have 10+ friends on at one time.
    ...this would give them unlimited respawns, if we worked from hearsay.