Presidential Debate
- Thread starter Toxik
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It's just that after watching the debate, I was just in awe. The man wants to "grade schools" so that parents know how good a school is, to be able to decide to take their children out of their current school to put them in other higher-graded schools. What. The. Hell.
I would love to input my opinions here, but I'm European so I'll obviously be biased towards Obama. I know it's only like PsychoRealm who is conservative in the first place, but hell do I know. Also, inb4 Bottiger is a hardcore Republican.
But again, I'm European, I'm not super into American politics.
Sweden has something like that, though it's mostly just checking some few points, then grading them and putting them on a website noone really knows about unless the school is so bad it appears on the news. The thing I don't like is the motivation, with the whole "parents"-thingy. It's the fucking kids that count, jeez, I'm getting sick of all these Republicans just focusing on the parents and not the kids themselves - like that anti-divorcing law in some state (Arizona I believe) or that law where critical thinking would be forbidden to teach out in schools (in Texas) because the kids might "rebel against their parents".
But again, I'm European, I'm not super into American politics.
Even if he does it, the only people that care enough to check out those grades are either wealthy people or people that were going to do the research anyways. It's honestly a waste of federal money.
To Xel's point, they're smart to a degree, but I honestly think they're not really smarter than a lot of college grads. They just have the biggest egos.
Fallen Leaves
Rage-Inducing Forum Troll
I honestly don't like either of them, but Naga sums up my feelings towards Romney pretty well.
Tbh the only party I would bother to vote for if I were a US citizen would be the Green Party or Libertarian, just to get a third party into congress, and even then the vote is most likely wasted. I cannot comprehend how people can think a two-party system is a good one, it just causes political stalemates.
i kinda wiss i didnt watch, because i am not going to vote this comming election (cause i hate both parties)
loganlj2
Epic Skial Regular
I see what you did there.
As for the debate, i didn't watch it myself but from news articles i heard Romney lied like 5 times the first half hour.
Honestly I think Nader would have made a good president. It's all about popular opinion though. To appeal to the broadest people you have to take a lot more fringe stances. Romney is actually not that radical of a republican (I mean he said he likes regulation!) which is why he gets a guy like Ryan to be his VP because that guys a hardcore republican. Biden is way more liberal than Obama is as well. The VP debate will most likely be more enjoyable to watch because Biden is a wildcard and Ryan is really polar opposite of him.
Yeah, he sounded good, but he changed his stance on issues a few times like Kerry did in 2004. The only difference is it sounds like he believed it all of along. Plus, the whole thing about "panels" and the 716$ billion cut to medicaid was BS. Honestly, if you're undecided at this point you're an idiot. These debates are just fodder.
Yeah, that's a stupid opinion he has. Instead of grading schools, try fixing schools, so that they'd all get a good grade upon review.
If you pull your children out of lower "grade" schools, that would mean that bad schools would only get worse as they lose funding. That's sort of backwards logic.
๖ۣۜZaldarius
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hoeslty the president doesnt really matter all that much as far as getting things done, people vastly overestimate his true political power, if either one gets elected, and the house/senate change, nothing is going to get done because all they are going to do is argue with each other the entire fucking time and get nothing done, such is the case now with a demo president and senate, and republican HoR.
Also, since the president can only really veto bills, not suggest nor vote on them, I fail to see why it truly matters who is the president.
And as far as the school gradings go, as long as they continue to lower the "standard" of standardised testing, its not going to really matter what grading system they do. standardized testing has gotten lower and lower ever since the concept was started, not to mention schools dont even teach real knowledge most of the time anymore, they just teach you enough to pass that stupid fucking test. Its no wonder I was able to make straight A's through school while asleep
Also, since the president can only really veto bills, not suggest nor vote on them, I fail to see why it truly matters who is the president.
And as far as the school gradings go, as long as they continue to lower the "standard" of standardised testing, its not going to really matter what grading system they do. standardized testing has gotten lower and lower ever since the concept was started, not to mention schools dont even teach real knowledge most of the time anymore, they just teach you enough to pass that stupid fucking test. Its no wonder I was able to make straight A's through school while asleep