BadmanoftheBrine

Uncharitable Spy
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Hi, made a suggestion and was told to post here so I shall.

Read a report thread from a report abuser that basically turned out to be another newb upset he couldn't leave spawn in trade.

Whilst I can't sympathise (binded jetpack, grapple and access to the windows usually let's me leave spawn), I can imagine this deters a lot of new players.

I know there's a plug in that gives you temporary invincibility when you respawn, perhaps that could be incorporated? I'd recommend it get configured (if at all possible) to deny damage from an invulnerable player, to deter possible abuse, and to stop spawncampers whining. At least let them have a chance out the spawn, and if they wanna hide in spawn, that's on them.

I'm highly confident my idea isn't going to be accepted, but its a suggestion so I'm fine with that. I can especially understand if it's due to mentioned strats, as that's more than fair for average players to understand. Plus there isn't a rule on spawncamping (and I don't think there should be)
 
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So long as anyone can sit in front of a door and shoot, people can and always will complain as about spawncamping.

This is easy to combat on other servers such as 2Fort, payload, etc. Places where more serious and consistent gameplay occur, unlike servers for trading or idling. It's always a choice the player makes to enter these servers among others, no one forces them to stay there and not go somewhere better suited for them.

It's also no secret that Donators like ourselves can enjoy perks on Trade and Idle in specific, I assume bottigers thanking us for our patronage. Again, these servers are not really serious about gameplay and moreso for.. trading/idling. Anyone that tries to take it seriously is either insane or stupid stubborn.

While I don't care if Bot wants to make changes to any of this, I don't really see any reason to change it in this way. All it would do is change what people will complain about, both for normal players and donaters alike.
 
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So long as anyone can sit in front of a door and shoot, people can and always will complain as about spawncamping.

This is easy to combat on other servers such as 2Fort, payload, etc. Places where more serious and consistent gameplay occur, unlike servers for trading or idling. It's always a choice the player makes to enter these servers among others, no one forces them to stay there and not go somewhere better suited for them.

It's also no secret that Donators like ourselves can enjoy perks on Trade and Idle in specific, I assume bottigers thanking us for our patronage. Again, these servers are not really serious about gameplay and moreso for.. trading/idling. Anyone that tries to take it seriously is either insane or stupid stubborn.

While I don't care if Bot wants to make changes to any of this, I don't really see any reason to change it in this way. All it would do is change what people will complain about, both for normal players and donaters alike.
Thats true, guess it would just increase complaints of something else. Maybe there could be a sign or popup that basically says "don't cry about spawnczmpers" or something, have it in numerous languages so they've got no excuse
 
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Perhaps if this idea isn't taken into account, I could make a new thread for that specifically (providing its not considered spamming)
 
What does that mean for this thread, exactly? It's not editable?
Completely editable, I keep VMFs for my maps.

It means that its a map for general play if players want to play while they're advertising for trade or in the middle of trade. Its not supposed to be the focus of the server
 
Completely editable, I keep VMFs for my maps.

It means that its a map for general play if players want to play while they're advertising for trade or in the middle of trade. Its not supposed to be the focus of the server
So you'd think a sign or something would be a bad idea, perhaps?
 
personally, I'd slap the "Danger: All employees may be forced to prove their mettle through fights past this point" sign (signs/mvm_danger01) next to the spawn exits and call it a day