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Obama youth
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I think you might be the only person here Mado not drinking the cool-aide. Something that the majority of the people here didn't understand one simple thing...and I'll quote it from you ;-)
"so yes the Obama youth is the same as the hitler youth movement, but the leaders have different agendas."
They'd probably be okay if I compared Obama to some great figure, but they get their panties in a bunch if you compare them to a bad guy. In truth Hitler only stands out similar to Obama in three different ways.
1.His persuasive tactics. Hitler was a great showman and Obama is too. I haven't seen any President (in my time) that has worked the crowds as well as him, this isn't a bad thing. A good politician should be able to work the crowds, I know other political figures have been great showman's ship but if I compare him (Obama) to Hitler, it freaks people out.
2.Gun Control. Obama wants it, Hitler got it. Both used children as props to get to push their agendas.
3.And various acts like Gitmo. While Obama didn't create it, a torture camp doesn't exactly inspire confidence of being the good guys.
Of course, who wouldn't? If someone says your mom is a good gal, I'd assume you'd be okay with him saying that, whereas if the guy says your mom is a fucking whore then I bet you wouldn't be very okay with that.
If you're talking about comparing Obama to Hitler just like that, then duh people are going to be all over you. If you compare Obama's charisma to Hitler's and people freak out they don't know their history. Hitler's style of charisma is something still teached out to this day because it was just that effective.
Different agendas, Obama want to have gun control in order to lower the amount of damage that can be done to inevitable school shootings and just prevent too much damage in general, whereas Hitler wanted to restrict gun control in order to make sure the population wouldn't be able to effectively rise up against Hitler and make sure that the ones who agreed with him got better arms.2.Gun Control. Obama wants it, Hitler got it. Both used children as props to get to push their agendas.
Several presidents have obviously not had any problems with torture camps, so this isn't something that can solely be blamed on Obama.
The "gun control" bill failed miserably. It wasn't even a gun control bill to begin with, it was for better background checks, longer wait times, etc. Things most people support.
It still failed. We live in this thing called a democracy... maybe you forgot that when comparing the US to Nazi Germany.
It still failed. We live in this thing called a democracy... maybe you forgot that when comparing the US to Nazi Germany.
I think someone's mad. Your first reply didn't make much sense to what you replied to...other then to call my mom a whore.
You second reply would imply that you should only compare things when it's in a positive sense.
And your different agendas thing shows you have a cool-aide mustache and you don't know much about history. Or at least about WW2. The Weapons Act of 1938 prevented Jews from owning weapons...not the mass population. Just the Jews, and then Hitler set about alienating the jewish population before the extermination. He didn't ban guns to stop the resistance of the whole population...the non-jewish ones had guns. Your cool-aide mustache comes from the fact that Obama wanted to ban guns before our recent school shootings or theater shooting. "just prevent too much damage in general" lol kids.
And your last post is the true gem here...
"Several presidents have obviously not had any problems with torture camps, so this isn't something that can solely be blamed on Obama"
Several Presidents being whom? Bush started it, and then there was just Obama. Unless you talking about other camps in American history like "Japanese Internment Camps of WW2" or one of the various Indian massacres....either way skip it.
Under that idea as long as past Presidents didn't have a problem with it, that makes it okay. So I guess that wasn't the change Obama was talking about. And does that no guilt for horrible acts extend to past Presidents or past leaders?
While sole blame shouldn't fall on Obama for torture camps (btw torture camps are against the law-both US Constitutionally and the Geneva Convention) Obama has the power. It's called Executive Order and Presidents make them all the time.
*Incidentally some moron on page 1 of the comments said something about in democracy how could one man have so much power....it's called executive order's.
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Either your bias clouds your mind or you have reading comprehensions, simple as that.
And Jews weren't a part of the population? Point still remains the same; He did it to prevent a Jew uprising and made sure that the nazis had full control. So what? What people would Obama exterminate? No people in the US are actively trying to rebel against him, there's no uprising to neutralize.
I think everyone can see what a strawman you just pulled. You are the one putting the blame on Obama, so you're the one who's implying it was okay for the other leaders. That's what I'm questioning if you truly do. Refer to my earlier point about your bias/reading comprehensions.
And you know what? I disagree with Obama, I think he should do something about it. Doesn't mean he's somehow comparable with Hitler, in that case you could blame all presidents who supported internment camps or massacres, after all, they actually killed people based on discrimination, unlike Obama.
Lol, I realize we still live in a democracy. Yes, the control control bill failed. But yeah MIttens it was a gun control bill...hence the name you used..."gun control bill."
-Background checks:Anyone know any veterans?? How many of those friends of yours have PTSD from the horrors they saw when fighting for our country. PTSD is a form of mental illness and could be a great excuse to not allow them to own guns. So they fight, many die and when they come back our nation tell them they are too crazy to own a gun. ;-)
-Revitalized Assault Weapon Ban: Seems to me that banning assault weapons means taking away certain guns. Newton shooting btw-no assault rifles used
-Limit 10 round magazines: Again MItten doesn't this look like a real form of gun control? Put a heavy in a corner with a minigun with less then 10 ammo in it...is he feeling very safe?
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I do blame all past Presidents who allowed Interment Camps or ones that past bills that lead to various Massacres. And it is just as much his fault as it is Bush's for allowing Gitmo to remain what it is. As Commander over all Armed Forces he doesn't have the ability to close a camp (executive order)...or at least improve conditions where the people living their aren't trying to kill themselves with Hunger strikes because you've removed all other ways for them to escape (Gitmo guard's can easily stop prisoners from attempting to hang themselves, but it's much harder to get prisoner's to eat).
That's what I've thought all this time, make sure you don't agree with someone next time before you pull a strawman.
Jim Jones. I was making a reference meaning you might be the only person who is using their brain.
In 1978 Jim Jones, who was the founder/leader of People's temple, Jonestown. 909 members, 303 of whom where children practiced mass suicides by drinking a cool-aide mix of cyanide. They were lied to and they listened never thinking to question anything.It was the largest loss of human life by non-disaster events til 9/11
You know using Hitler the way I did wasn't using him as a strawman right?
The strawman response all came from those supporting Obama. Checkout my first post. I like 4-5 similarities between Obama and Hitler. Not one of those similarities talked about genocide.
In my second comment I can be quoted to saying this..." I never claimed that Obama likes rounding people up"
My third comment quoted this," My comparison never touched genocide for the reason that Obama (as far as we know) hasn't done it"
My fourth posts "Just because your beloved Obama didn't kill a bunch of Jew's doesn't mean he doesn't share political actions that are similiar to Hitler."
Again never claiming anything about the genocide. Always talking about other political actions from Obama and Hitler. By them bringing up the genocide they are misrepresenting my original posts and attempting to draw attention to an irrelevant issue. Obama never committed a genocide, and they by misrepresenting my posts they are creating a strawman...a distraction. "Let's talk about genocide, and ignore any similarities between to politicians." Just saying. ;-)
Good going wasting your time typing something out that wasn't even relevant to what I called a strawman. Go back and read right.
TheNotSid
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every post would be rated misinformed tho
nah he just kills people with robot planes