Obama backs gay marriage

P Lash said:
Am I the only person over here who couldn't give a fuck about American politics?
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It's just interesting to see how a large superpower treats such an issue, that is considered an absolute non-issue in most other industrialized countries, as the absolute large-scale issue of the whole election.
 
DeadHerald said:
1. Which is probably the most uninformed and easily manipulated voting block.
2. Most politicians do, or at least have staffers who do.
3. Barry?
4. Eloquent, but rigidly ideological and financially inept. Are we talking about Obama or Hitler?
5. If they wanted a huge bitch for president, why didn't they vote for Hillary?
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1. And yet it's a mystery to dem old folks
2. And yet you still get politicians who have no idea of what twitter is or misuse social media
3. Barack Hussein Obama. dat name (insert shades guy right here)
4. How the hell is he rigid ideologically? I have hippie liberal friends that didn't vote for him because they didn't think he was enough of a liberal. I voted for him becaause he was further in the center than most folks.
5. I'd vote for that. I would 1000% vote for that.
 
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Tomatketchup said:
It's just interesting to see how a large superpower treats such an issue, that is considered an absolute non-issue in most other industrialized countries, as the absolute large-scale issue of the whole election.
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I will be perfectly honest with you, it's gone from fox saying 'HOW DARE YOU LET GAY PEOPLE RUIN FAMILY VALUES' to "WELL HE JUST WANTS GAY MONEY"

big step up.

Also, I'm sorry my country's politicians are so very well funded by crazy pantsy wantsies.
 
Giildy said:
I will be perfectly honest with you, it's gone from fox saying 'HOW DARE YOU LET GAY PEOPLE RUIN FAMILY VALUES' to "WELL HE JUST WANTS GAY MONEY"

big step up.

Also, I'm sorry my country's politicians are so very well funded by crazy pantsy wantsies.
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Honestly, I don't really like the two party system in the first place. Yes, more parties do exist but they can never become serious competition due to the way American laws are formulated. I would love to see a major socialist party in the US (but of course most folks can't see the difference between socialism and communism, even my American relatives gasps when I say I'm a socialist, and they are flippin' lawyers).
 
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people are dumbasses.

"ohh Obama supports gay marriage now he is a good president. im going to vote for him"

i hate this country
 
The media focuses on the most sensational shit they can, I'm sure this is far down his list of prioritys.
 
Can I just put the whole "homosexuality is wrong the bible says so herp derp" thing to bed right now.
It DOES say in the Old Testament something like "God hates the man who lays with another man" BUT Christians are NOT bound by the Jewish laws.
 
Lord Killington said:
Can I just put the whole "homosexuality is wrong the bible says so herp derp" thing to bed right now.
It DOES say in the Old Testament something like "God hates the man who lays with another man" BUT Christians are NOT bound by the Jewish laws.
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Holy scripts are written in ways that can be defined differently by individuals. Why do you think there exists so many different forms of the various Abrahamic religions?
 
Tomatketchup said:
Holy scripts are written in ways that can be defined differently by individuals. Why do you think there exists so many different forms of the various Abrahamic religions?
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Yeah, I'm just saying that the (Catholic) Church teaches that Homosexuality isn't wrong but homosexual intercourse is
 
Maddogames said:
The media focuses on the most sensational shit they can, I'm sure this is far down his list of prioritys.
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Not true. Mitt Romney's treatment of his dog some decades ago during a vacation and Obama's eating of dog meat when he was a child in Indonesia are examples of some of the most important stories in the recent history of our nation. Just wait until Mitt Romney declares war on dogs or Obama opens a restaurant allowing you to eat the still-beating hearts of dogs, then you would've wished you listened to Fox News/MSNBC.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS...d-joined-white/story?id=16174458#.T60698j4I7M
 
Lord Killington said:
Yeah, I'm just saying that the (Catholic) Church teaches that Homosexuality isn't wrong but homosexual intercourse is
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Really? Are you sure that's not what they said in the past (as in the 17th century and before when homosexuality was still considered okay), because then I wouldn't be surprised.
 
Lord Killington said:
Can I just put the whole "homosexuality is wrong the bible says so herp derp" thing to bed right now.
It DOES say in the Old Testament something like "God hates the man who lays with another man" BUT Christians are NOT bound by the Jewish laws.
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Added in with the fact that the religious right see's marriage as a religious ceremony and this is exactly why they take issue with it. So, simple solution, the government no longer gives a flying fuck if you're married or not. Any benefits/protections granted to a "married" couple are only applied to civil unions. The state ONLY grants civil unions and no longer gives a flying fuck about marriage. You can continue to have your marriage ceremonies if you choose to but it counts for nothing as far as the state is concerned, you would still need to enter into a civil union for any of the benefits/protections. The religious right gets to have their religious ceremony and the state removes any potential religious significance from the government recognized civil union.

At this point, if the right continues to bitch about the idea of homosexuals getting "civil unions" you tell them to go fuck themselves. Homosexuals may not get a "marriage" but in all honesty that would be up to individual churches to decide and they could probably find one that would allow it anyways.
 
Obama used the crazy old man tactic

Biden says something ridiculous, then the prez and cabinet can gauge public reaction and can either side with it, or throw it out as "he's just a crazy old man, don't mind him"

To his credit this is a pretty good strategy.
 
Tomatketchup said:
Really? Are you sure that's not what they said in the past (as in the 17th century and before when homosexuality was still considered okay), because then I wouldn't be surprised.
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Well, I'd always heard they teach it to be ok, so I did a quick google and found this
Q: What is the official Catholic teaching about homosexuality?

In the mid-1970s, the Vatican recognized the difference between being homosexual and engaging in homogenital (same-sex) acts. Catholic teaching holds that, as a state beyond a person’s choice, being homosexual is not wrong. But just as it is wrong for unmarried heterosexuals to engage in sex, so, too, homogenital acts are wrong.

The Church also teaches understanding and compassion toward gay and lesbian people. In their 1976 statement, To Live in Christ Jesus, the American bishops wrote, “Some persons find themselves through no fault of their own to have a homosexual orientation. Homosexuals, like everyone else, should not suffer from prejudice against their basic human rights. They have a right to respect, friendship, and justice. They should have an active role in the Christian community.… The Christian community should provide them a special degree of pastoral understanding and care.” In 1990, in their instruction, Human Sexuality, the Catholic Bishops repeated this teaching, which is also in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

In 1997, the U.S. Catholic Bishops published Always Our Children: A Pastoral Message to Parents of Homosexual Children and Suggestions for Pastoral Ministers. Addressing lesbians and gay men, the bishops said, “In you God’s love is revealed.” The bishops encouraged families to remain connected when a member revealed his or her homosexuality and called for the establishment of ministries sensitive to the needs of gay and lesbian Catholics and their families.
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