Declined "Nigger" or "faggot" gets you instakicked/banned

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TheAsian said:
"Nigga" is friendly. "Nigger" is racist. I live in the hood, and i've never heard a friendly greeting from one black american to another saying "Wusup my Nigger!". Even if it is a friendly racial slur used among black americans, doesn't mean its an okay foe non black americans to use.

Only reason why it's not okay for non black americans is because the word "Nigger" was given to Black slaves back then.
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This coming from a guy who reported somebody for being racist simply for repeatedly referring to his username.
 
Why not add in **** replaces for the words we don't want on server? If people type in n1gg3r to bypass it or say it over mic and then get chastised by an admin they have essentially NO way to say they were ignorant of skial's no fucking racism rule.
 
TheAsian said:
"Nigga" is friendly. "Nigger" is racist. I live in the hood, and i've never heard a friendly greeting from one black american to another saying "Wusup my Nigger!". Even if it is a friendly racial slur used among black americans, doesn't mean its an okay foe non black americans to use.

Only reason why it's not okay for non black americans is because the word "Nigger" was given to Black slaves back then.
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While I respect your ability to disagree with me, I will note the flaw in your attempted ethos. First, you claim to, "...live in the hood." So, because you live in, "...the hood," and have not experienced two black Americans greeting each other that way, it's thus not an issue? There's a problem with your appeal to credibility. You must not be familiar with movies like, "Half Baked," "How High, " etc. Secondly, I lived on multiple military bases in my life. I attended middle school in Kansas, where caucasians [which, I am] were ethnic minority students. They use the phrase in the way I described. Maybe they don't do it everywhere, but that's not the principle.

Next, you assert that it isn't okay for non-black Americans to use the phrase. Here's another disagreement we have. I have a friend who is a black American named lucky. I went through four years of Purdue University with this guy and I still have no idea what his real name is, but yet we use the phrase with each other regularly. He is not the only one I share this degree of intimacy with. We are in good rapport with each other. Therefore, you are attempting to impose your values by stating, "Even if it is a friendly racial slur used among black americans, doesn't mean its an okay foe non black americans to use." I don't share that value and I do not agree with you, friend.

Next, did you know that "Nigger" is actually a variation of the word "Negro," which comes from the word "Negroid"? "Negroid" derives from the scientific expression for that group of people (the corollary to the word, "Caucasian" for white people). Yes, the word may have been used in a derogatory way in the 1800s and 1900s, but it is a bit more complicated than that. Aside from also being a term of endearment to some, it's also a derogatory word toward people of other races.

Do I have a credibility problem because I am in the ethnic majority? Perhaps. Is there a problem with the logical and rationale? I don't think so, but that's for others to decide. I believe in fairness. I like Roman's earlier post about admins looking at chatlogs. I agree with that perspective. If he had not clarified that point, I would have made the next assertion that the words "cracker" and "honky" were added to this long list of unacceptable phrases.
 
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[TC]CreepingDeath said:
You just hit the nail on the head. My view of "them" IS higher than the their own view of themselves, but it shouldn't be. We're all equal. Unfortunately society sees fit to knock down certain groups and keep them down.
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That is your opinion and it is an elitist opinion. That is not to say you are an elitist yourself, only an observation of behavior. I can't speculate on what degree narcissism may have played on how you formed this opinion, but I can say that even educated people who are not in the most oppressed circumstances still use that type of verbosity. You're right, we're all equal, and we should be able to engage in what type of behavior we choose among friends, without being categorized as having views that are perceived inferior; simply because of a choice of vernacular one uses.
 
FearlessJuggernaut said:
While I respect your ability to disagree with me, I will note the flaw in your attempted ethos. First, you claim to, "...live in the hood." So, because you live in, "...the hood," and have not experienced two black Americans greeting each other that way, it's thus not an issue? There's a problem with your appeal to credibility. You must not be familiar with movies like, "Half Baked," "How High, " etc. Secondly, I lived on multiple military bases in my life. I attended middle school in Kansas, where caucasians [which, I am] were ethnic minority students. They use the phrase in the way I described. Maybe they don't do it everywhere, but that's not the principle.

Next, you assert that it isn't okay for non-black Americans to use the phrase. Here's another disagreement we have. I have a friend who is a black American named lucky. I went through four years of Purdue University with this guy and I still have no idea what his real name is, but yet we use the phrase with each other regularly. He is not the only one I share this degree of intimacy with. We are in good rapport with each other. Therefore, you are attempting to impose your values by stating, "Even if it is a friendly racial slur used among black americans, doesn't mean its an okay foe non black americans to use." I don't share that value and I do not agree with you, friend.

Next, did you know that "Nigger" is actually a variation of the word "Negro," which comes from the word "Negroid"? "Negroid" derives from the scientific expression for that group of people (the corollary to the word, "Caucasian" for white people). Yes, the word may have been used in a derogatory way in the 1800s and 1900s, but it is a bit more complicated than that. Aside from also being a term of endearment to some, it's also a derogatory word toward people of other races.

Do I have a credibility problem because I am in the ethnic majority? Perhaps. Is there a problem with the logical and rationale? I don't think so, but that's for others to decide. I believe in fairness. I like Roman's earlier post about admins looking at chatlogs. I agree with that perspective. If he had not clarified that point, I would have made the next assertion that the words "cracker" and "honky" were added to this long list of unacceptable phrases.
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Well here's the thing I wouldn't disagree with your opinion. You and me are 2 completely different people living in different scenarios. What it may seem okay to where you live. There's a whole different perspective in where I live. You may be more exposed where non black americans are using it freely, while over here a person would get sued or shot.

I did know the term nigger derived from Negro, Negro is. Scientific way of saying black. Then came nigger for the insulting term used directly towards black slaves.

I agree with Romans idea also. In fact I have a post up on the Ban request forum against a player names walteragbo. Supporting Romans idea.
 
[TC]CreepingDeath said:
This coming from a guy who reported somebody for being racist simply for repeatedly referring to his username.
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Walteragbo:

THE GOOK STRIKES AGAIN. fuckign yellw jew cunt. nigger jew korean kim jong ill. fucking asian peice of shit. just for being asian. fuck him.

Yeah "simply referring"
 
I think at the worst it should mute/gag. (someone might have already said that, didn't feel like reading three pages)
 
I like how the system is right now.

Getting berated by an automated script takes the weight out of being accosted and chided by an actual person when confronted with the realization that you are, in fact, being politically incorrect and generally offensive.
 
KinCryos said:
I know that "negro" happens to be the Spanish word for the color 'black'
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"black" used to be considered the derogatory and more offensive out of the bunch ("negro" was more appropriate according to MLK), malcolm x preferred "black" because the word "negro" is more associated with a history of slavery and discrimination.

i have some black friends who don't call each other "nigga" (they do sometimes, but they're way more formal than the next bunch) and i have a bunch of white friends who have adopted calling each other "nigga", i think people do that because it's a juxtaposition between different races, black people are considered "cool" in a cultural appropriation sort of way, i don't see black people call each other "white boy" or "honkey" because white people really aren't all that cool and hip, white people are pretty square i wager.
 
Maybe a single line of red text saying
Racism is not tolerated on Skial servers
should pop up in the offender's chat feed if they send a message that contains a racist slur.

Just a friendly reminder. I doubt most of the people that use racism in an attempt to belittle whoever just killed them are actually racist, they just need to vent some anger while they watch the killcam and can't think of anything more offensive.
 
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FearlessJuggernaut said:
So, for black Americans who show affection and connect with another using the word "nigger," we're really willing to pressure them as a community to stop using that word because of what could potentially become offensive? Don't you think that sounds a bit oppressive?
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This isn't an absolute problem with black and white answers (pardon the pun) but each use of this word should be based on that situation.

That being said , for the
VAST

majority of the time, this word is unacceptable and since on TF2 chat, which is what we're talking about, assuming anything about anyone is stupid.
Long story short, I'd approve something along the lines of Roman's suggestion
 
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