Help Me! Need a PC for game recording and video/photo editing, looking for below $1,500. I have one in mind.

Discussion in 'Technology' started by sboles, Jan 3, 2016.

  1. sboles

    sboles Gaben's Own Aimbot Contributor

    Steam:

    This is the one I have in mind - http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-H50-De...p/B011HNT8EW/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8[1]

    However, I do have some issues with it. One of the viewers says there is an issue with the actual amount of RAM, but it seems that they might be wrong. I'm not entirely sure, if you look in the review section of the website you can find what I'm talking about.

    Another is about Lenovo's "Superfish" program, which was actually a virus they pre installed on some computers. I've heard they stopped putting this software onto new computers, but I'd rather not have a computer with a virus pre installed. Along with that, I've heard a lot about Lenovo products having an excess of bloatware that are extremely hard to remove.

    I'd prefer it to be a desktop.
    I plan on using this PC to -

    • Use adobe products (Dreamworks, Photoshop, Fireworks) and Sony Vegas 13.
    • Capture video game footage and live stream. (This is the capture card I am using, it says it requires USB 2.0 or higher, Win 7 or later, and 4 gb of RAM)
    • Casual computer use - Browsing the internet, watching videos from Youtube/Netflix/Twitch.
    • Casual gaming - Like Minecraft, Hearthstone, Undertale.
    • I'd like for it to have a disc drive, HDMI ports
    TL;DR: I need a computer for photo and video editing use, not much for gaming. How bad are Lenovo products and the specific desktop I linked? If I were to buy it, what would the limitations on it be? (i.e You can edit videos, but not play new games.).
     
  2. shoo

    shoo Gaben's Own Aimbot Contributor

    Steam:

    just build a pc dude, its way cheaper and its easier to find the parts you're looking for.
     
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  3. EatMyMaymays

    EatMyMaymays Gaben's Own Aimbot Contributor

    Steam:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883220797

    Or if you want a one that's a bit cheaper
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3FA3F04490

    I was looking for ones that are better for editing rather than gaming like you are looking for, not sure if you'd be up for building your own but if you would then I found a pretty good build

    CPU:Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Motherboard:ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.89 @ OutletPC)
    Memory:G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage:OCZ ARC 100 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage:Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.75 @ OutletPC)
    Video Card:EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($316.99 @ NCIX US)
    Case:Enermax OSTROG ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.50 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply:EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
    Optical Drive:Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($12.99 @ Newegg)
    Operating System:Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 OEM (64-bit) ($88.75 @ OutletPC)
    Monitor:BenQ GW2255 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($117.59 @ Amazon)
    Total: $1172.42

    Not everyone is comfortable with building it themselves with how many things can go wrong.

    I don't look that much into pre-built PCs but the only limitation I could see with that one would be not being able to play new games on it, going under 1,500 is still really good for builds that can play new games though so you have good options.
     
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  4. RMSniper

    RMSniper TF2 Admin Contributor

    Steam:

    I'm just gonna second the Dell XPS. I didn't look at the specs, but you can't go wrong with an XPS. I've had my 8000 series XPS for 4 years now, and it does far and above what I need it to. I never felt the need to waste money on cooling systems or Alienware. XPS is very good.

    For what you're looking for (probably a quad core Intel processor, at least 6 gb of ram, and a disk drive), you could easily pick one up for between $600 and $800. No reason to spend $1000+ if you're not wanting a high powered gaming PC. Just my two cents!
     
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  5. sboles

    sboles Gaben's Own Aimbot Contributor

    Steam:

    Thanks for linking me to all those parts, but I'm not in a position to build a PC right now. Probably my next PC though.

    That Dell desktop looks great though, and it's a little bit cheaper on amazon. However, how does it compare to the Lenovo I linked to in the OP? The Lenovo is cheaper, has more RAM, and 2 TBs of space. However, that's just looking at numbers.
     
  6. Meowcenary

    Meowcenary TF2 Admin Contributor

    Steam:

    The dell one you just linked has 8GB of RAM instead of 12, a 1TB hard drive instead of 2TB but it has a much better processor and a dedicated video card which is going to be a lot better than integrated graphics.
     
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  7. sboles

    sboles Gaben's Own Aimbot Contributor

    Steam:

    So the dell is better overall? I can deal with the "lack" of hard drive space, but what about the RAM? Is the 4 less RAM going to inhibit me in any way?
     
  8. EatMyMaymays

    EatMyMaymays Gaben's Own Aimbot Contributor

    Steam:

    It could end up being a little bit slower for multitasking and video encoding but overall the Dell is better. Sorry, I was going to say about the same thing Meowgi said but I was playing Smash with Shoe and every time I tried to respond he started yelling at me to hurry up.
     
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  9. shoo

    shoo Gaben's Own Aimbot Contributor

    Steam:

    8 gigabytes is plenty for most things.
     
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  10. RMSniper

    RMSniper TF2 Admin Contributor

    Steam:

    Honestly, ram is so cheap. If you wanna upgrade it yourself at a later time (literally a 5 minute change), then the RAM on one computer over another should not be your main decision basis. Also, I'm a little biased for Dell over Lenovo, but perhaps someone on the forums has had both a Dell and Lenovo (and thus could share their experience in that regard). I second @Meowcenary on all of the above, as well. It has a better processor, and you would want a dedicated video card versus integrated.

    http://www.amazon.com/Dell-x8900-631BLK-Desktop-Generaton-NVIDIA/dp/B015JVBAPI/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1451869461&sr=1-3&refinements=p_n_feature_eight_browse-bin:3085935011,p_n_feature_eight_browse-bin:3085963011
    ^ Here's another one to consider.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883158238
    ^ Also worth considering
     
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  11. Meowcenary

    Meowcenary TF2 Admin Contributor

    Steam:

    Video game wise, you should be fine with 8GB of RAM. Practically 98% of the video games on the market don't take up more than 8GB of RAM. That will change over the years, but that's how it currently is. The only game I know of that takes up more than 8GB is Battlefront, even then I've heard it doesn't use that much.

    But if you have more than just a game and the other common applications running in the background (for example, some big name streamers usually run more than 8GB because they usually have so much stuff running while gaming) it might be a good idea to get more RAM.

    I'm assuming you'll be fine with 8GB, but what you can do is try it out with 8GBand if it looks like you need more you can easily upgrade. Like the others pointed out it's relatively cheap and it's one of the easiest parts to change on your PC.

    You can see how much RAM you're using by opening windows task manager and looking at the performance tab. Looks like this:

    [​IMG]
     
  12. sboles

    sboles Gaben's Own Aimbot Contributor

    Steam:

    Thanks for the options, but I'm gonna stick with that 8700 Creeper linked me. The 8900 only being an i5 irks me, and so does that newegg one. It being 40 less than the one creeper linked, but with half the RAM. Also it has Windows 7 installed, so that's a big plus. On the topic of RAM being cheap, I would rather just have a computer that worked out of the box. I really don't want to mess anything up, even if it's relatively simple.

    Also - I heard there are some deep web websites where you can download RAM for free. Don't tell anyone who sent you.

    To my understanding - RAM only affects how long it takes my computer to do things, correct? When streaming, all the computer will be doing is streaming, maybe with a browser open. I don't think I'd nead a lot of RAM for this, right? The elgato page said it'd only need 4, so I can deal with only 2x the required RAM.
     
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  13. EatMyMaymays

    EatMyMaymays Gaben's Own Aimbot Contributor

    Steam:

    You should be just fine while streaming with 8gb ram.

    And i5s are really good Cpus, for gaming. They aren't really that great when it comes to video rendering speed, the i7 has Hyperthreading which really speeds things up when it comes to that stuff.

    EDIT: I should clarify, you should be fine while streaming with 8gb ram when it's a console game that's being streamed, PC games *depending on how demanding they are* you should probably get one with 12gb ram. Or more, but console and less demanding stuff should be a-ok with 8gb
     
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  14. RMSniper

    RMSniper TF2 Admin Contributor

    Steam:

    Perhaps I'm misreading, but I do not see any computer linked by you, myself, or Creeper that comes with Windows 7. Can you show me what you're referring to?

    Also the Newegg computer I linked you is better than the one Creeper linked you. See right here --> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883158238 - It has more RAM (12 GB) and has a better graphics card. Also it's the exact same i7 processor as the one creeper linked you. It's not i5. It is also forty dollars cheaper. So I'm not sure why you're saying it's worse at forty cheaper?
     
  15. EatMyMaymays

    EatMyMaymays Gaben's Own Aimbot Contributor

    Steam:

    He linked the same one I did but on Amazon, which has Windows 7 instead of Windows 8.1 and is a bit cheaper.
    http://www.amazon.com/Dell-X8700-17...UTF8&qid=1451867154&sr=8-2&keywords=Dell+8700
     
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  16. Meowcenary

    Meowcenary TF2 Admin Contributor

    Steam:

    Lack of ram in video games can cause persistent lag spikes when your computer renders new stuff in like players for example. But this only happens if your system is maxing out its ram usage or is coming very close to it.



    Not entirely sure about software. I think software will merely lag behind a bit, but not entirely sure on that.

    But Creeper knows more about this stuff than I do, so if he says 8GB will be enough then 8GB will be enough
     
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  17. EatMyMaymays

    EatMyMaymays Gaben's Own Aimbot Contributor

    Steam:

    There can be a pretty sizable difference in say load speed, rendering speed etc in software but 8gb provides fine speeds for all of that stuff, and unless he plans on streaming ram dependent games *like most new games* he should be just fine. With games like Minecraft, Hearthstone, Undertale and console games he'll be golden.
     
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  18. sboles

    sboles Gaben's Own Aimbot Contributor

    Steam:

    This one, that Creeper linked to me - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00N2C6LQ0...lid=2ZBJCADBQKSC3&coliid=I15R5JSU97EL8M&psc=1

    I'm sorry, that was just a confusing, hastily written reply. RAM thing was a mistake, my bad. However it runs Windows 8. You get a free upgrade to 10 with 8 right? I'm not close minded about W10, but having W7 (The last Windows version I've used) is a definite plus.

    How does the CPU affect the computer? On the one that you linked in the quoted post, it seems to be the lowest option.
     
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  19. SgtGiraffe

    SgtGiraffe Australian Skial God

    Steam:

    i recommend this monitor i have it the color on it is great
     
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  20. Meowcenary

    Meowcenary TF2 Admin Contributor

    Steam:

    The slower the CPU is, the slower generally everything else can be. If you're running a game that your processor struggles running, you'll have low FPS. If you're using programs that take up a lot of CPU power they'll be sluggish.

    But the i7 processor they linked is good. I mean really good. It's a higher end processor that could run most, if not all of the most hardware demanding games on the market right now, assuming you have a video card that won't bottleneck it of course.

    It's overkill for what you would be using it for, but that's not a bad thing. You wouldn't have to upgrade for quite sometime. One of my friends runs a a i7-4790k (slightly more powerful version of the i7-4790, but not by a ton) for quite awhile without needing to upgrade.
     
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