lampkiller12

Scarcely Lethal Noob
i think i speak for most sane individuals when i say the 3 CD is just not enough for ZE with its current map pool. the feedback loop of santassination > banban > krusty krab > korea repeat is mind numbing and i believe most people would be on board for a cooldown raise. the 3 map cooldown was ok back when we had like ~50 maps but times have changed and so has the quality and amount of maps on the server (marginally). i personally think the cooldown should be raised to around 6 but if others have any better ideas i would be open to them aswell. i know the logic is "if people dont want to play those maps they will just not vote for them!" but the 6 year olds who just got off the 9 hour banban finger family video on mommy's ipad do not listen to reason and will spam these maps until everyone has developed brainrot. also as an added bonus it means more variety in maps as the server needs to find other things to do instead of playing on the buzzword maps, AKA people don't get bored as fast and players stick around longer. please consider my suggestion it took me 4 minutes to write this
 
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The state of ze is horrible nowdays, between the mayority of the community is completely a pain in the ass and the same mayority forcing ppl to play the maps that lamp mentioned when they are not even able to beat the first stage of them. Its an endless cycle of playing the map for 1 round, ppl getting tired of their own incompetence and rtv to another of the mentioned maps. Even tho i certainly sure this wont happen but it will be great if luffaren maps like santa, diddle and korea have 1 day cd so the same mayority think twice before burning their chance of doing the maps
 
We already tried high cooldown and that resulted in fewer people in the server because everyone just waits in discord until a bot tells them that their favorite map is on before they even consider joining the server.

If you don't like it, then stop doing this and vote against the map when you are on the server.
 
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We already tried high cooldown and that resulted in fewer people in the server because everyone just waits in discord until a bot tells them that their favorite map is on before they even consider joining the server.

If you don't like it, then stop doing this and vote against the map when you are on the server.
At least consider putting the 1 day cd to luff maps, so we can play the other 80 maps that we dont play thanks to them cycling to the same 4 maps
 
"resulted in fewer people in the server"

but have you considered that these people not being in the server is good for our sanity
 
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oh no the 12 year olds are too busy in daycare and can't log on to play santa

however will they survive
 
We already tried high cooldown and that resulted in fewer people in the server because everyone just waits in discord until a bot tells them that their favorite map is on before they even consider joining the server.

If you don't like it, then stop doing this and vote against the map when you are on the server.
It's just that there isnt enough maps that would offer a similar experience as a subsitute to the maps that most "ZE kids" nominate because its "funny" and just in general a map that the struggles in stage 2... 2-7 in santa... 2-8 2-5 literally, i've seen the worst of the worst of these skial people that would fill the server that only, and i mean ONLY play ZE when its santa or best korea, and with skial having a near nonexistent cooldown for maps makes it that it's in the no longer on cooldown and takes the spot out of many better maps, and gets picked 5/a day which makes me and some others just anxious because we dont want to play more luffaren maps.....
 
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Skial ZE hasn't tried to force these "players" (which are just literal children or children who have <100 of total playtime in tf2) to differ or stop these absolute trolls for nominating the same maps, best korea, santa, diddle, sandstone, maps that are way too hard for an average weekday human team, casual mode or not, Skial going santa after losing stage 2 for 6 rounds because "bad leader" but it's just that the map is too hard for 45 special education children that play ZE and a lack of regulars or known people.

The only way people have to break this of going

Best korea > Santa > Diddle > BanBan > some random map > repeat

Is for somebody known like Noob a particle, Dotka, spiego, etc to go another map that isn't in this cycle.

A more higher cooldown for maps will try pushing these "players" out their comfort zone, like playing maps like any final fantasy map, any wo0 map, etc.
 
We already tried high cooldown and that resulted in fewer people in the server because everyone just waits in discord until a bot tells them that their favorite map is on before they even consider joining the server.

If you don't like it, then stop doing this and vote against the map when you are on the server.
If >50% of the users are randoms, we, the players that dont want to enter the "cycle" of absolute downbad maps have no chance against it, the best we can do is pray somebody has map reset vote, or try to influence these "players" into voting another map that isn't part of the cycle.