New [Forums] Add option to make "private" reports

[prokid]

Basically, add an option to make your report private which makes it only visible to the poster and the admins and not the general public.

The reason for me suggesting this is because I've seen way too much unnecessary trash talk and harassment and I'd like to use myself as an example for this. There would be absolutely zero drama going on if this was an option, you've seen it first hand.

This would be a better alternative than just DM'ing some admin about your issue. It is private, and it also doesn't bug anyone, and all admins can still weigh in and come to a conclusion, even if it may take a little longer.

The obvious drawback to this is that there won't be other people posting evidence. That seems pretty bad but when you look at most reports, this barely actually comes in to play. Most people just tend to simply trash talk and say it is unfair for them rather than posting evidence challenging the report. And there is always the option to 'un-private' the report if things seem uncertain.

 

[OmegaMalkior]

+1
I've seen people be harassed over some reports done on here, and this would definitely clear up the chance of that happening. However as you brought up, I would say the evidence they post on private reports need to be really irrefutable in a certain way, since yeah, we just had someone try doctoring evidence of another claim elsewhere. It's a 50/50 type thing, but I think the pro's outweigh the cons long term IMO.

 

[Cream Tea]

Absolutely not.

 

[Pot Head Wabbit]

-1
If you have enough proof someone deserves a ban/mute, then at least give common courtesy to make it viewable by everyone. If you're getting harassed for simply "making reports" I have a feeling they were never all to valid or you were over reporting. Either way -1

 

[Jermaphobe]

Hell no

 

[gala]

dms to admins are private reports, different story if they want to accept them, they dont have to

certain people make reports to me on forum and discord dms but only about more serious stuff and its not very often either

 

[Sleepy Bear]

I think the factor that private 'talk' to admins directly should not change the faculty of 'posting' a problem.

The flow being is that you are able to include the community into what the report is - a problem documented. You want something heard and it will be broadcasted.

What the 'intrigue' of the documentation could be is how the documentation is recorded. Are there others that can directly correlate to your reporting and are you able to provide a visual record or link to what the circumstance was/is.

Almost of all of what you described as a point was subjective. Leaning into the fact that making a problem known is probably a good thing so that people can see it - admin or not.

 

[gala]

I think the factor that private 'talk' to admins directly should not change the faculty of 'posting' a problem.

The flow being is that you are able to include the community into what the report is - a problem documented. You want something heard and it will be broadcasted.

What the 'intrigue' of the documentation could be is how the documentation is recorded. Are there others that can directly correlate to your reporting and are you able to provide a visual record or link to what the circumstance was/is.

Almost of all of what you described as a point was subjective. Leaning into the fact that making a problem known is probably a good thing so that people can see it - admin or not.

are you replying to me or prokid

 

[prokid]

Hell no

Then from now on I will directly message you specifically regarding all reports.

 

[prokid]

I think the factor that private 'talk' to admins directly should not change the faculty of 'posting' a problem.

The flow being is that you are able to include the community into what the report is - a problem documented. You want something heard and it will be broadcasted.

What the 'intrigue' of the documentation could be is how the documentation is recorded. Are there others that can directly correlate to your reporting and are you able to provide a visual record or link to what the circumstance was/is.

Almost of all of what you described as a point was subjective. Leaning into the fact that making a problem known is probably a good thing so that people can see it - admin or not.

Not really, if you take a look at some of the reports, not just mine, you can see a whole lot of what I am describing. We just had another one of these "drama" incidents yesterday with me and two/three days ago regarding two different 2fort servers.
https://www.skial.com/threads/♚mr-bn-king♚-micspam.122378/
https://www.skial.com/threads/skull-™-continued-toxicity-for-no-reason.122347/
https://www.skial.com/threads/don-chigen-harassment.122332/

I'm trying to be fair and consider both sides of the argument here and the main argument is that others will not be able to contribute to evidence and I made it clear that if things truly seem uncertain, there can always be an option to unhide it or wait a little longer to have the respective server-specific admins weigh in on the decision. I agree with OmegaMalkior that it will be beneficial in the long-term.

And I don't understand this idea that it has to be visible to everyone. If you want all problems and reports to be 'common courtesy' to be viewable by all, why not tell admins who get messaged reports privately to screenshot everything and archive it here? The idea behind this is clearly a sense/level of privacy which can avoid bigger problems and unnecessary conflict down the line.

 

[Dr. K]

-1

Reports need to be public for sake of transparency.

 

[prokid]

Or how about another alternative that seems to please both sides:
Reports aren't hidden from the public, but the user who reports it is "anonymized," their username and avatar is set to something different which only the admins can see.
The report evidence is there and everyone can see it all the same, but only the only thing "hidden" is the poster's identity. It would achieve the same effect of preventing conflict while also keeping the benefits of transparency and involvement with everyone.

 

[LizzieSteph]

-1
no not at all. if you absoluetly MUST make a private report you can DM us but its always best just to keep them public
Having them be public makes the whole appeal process easier for everybody

 

[prokid]

https://www.skial.com/threads/minamoto-no-garyune-hacks-friendly.122392/#post-897221

 

[Metroidz]

Just making alternate forum account called "anonymous" and report people with that.

Also there's nothing of value online except the value you give it.

If people call you names, insult you, harass you, fuck em.

 

[Metroidz]

I literally never use my real name, address or anything online that's the truth and could be used against me. I have a brain and am smart enough not to let random people think they get to me.

 

[DuneToa]

This is legitimately the worst suggestion I’ve ever seen on any forum. It’s in the best interest of everyone involved in a report to publicly disclose why someone should be banned or muted. To get rid of that would make this forum at least as bad as Reddit, where you could be banned without cause (as far as you could see).

 

[Cream Tea]

This forum is already practically run by Reddit moderators.

 

[「Coronarena」]

If you're trying to name and shame someone, well that's not your problem. How about if you're making a false report? You deserve to then be the one named and shamed.

If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear. Why hide who's reporting who?
-1

 

[caramel]

-1

if you're friends with admin and they're okay with you sending reports to them in private then that's fine.

but asking to make "private reports" to admins so they can mute/ban without any thought behind it is just ridiculous, just for you to avoid people seeing it is not fair whatsoever.

this will not be happening since we like to be transparent with everyone and not prioritize specific people who use the report system.