Problem solved. Computer not picking up monitor signal

Discussion in 'Technology' started by Meowcenary, Nov 25, 2017.

  1. White Moose

    White Moose Totally Ordinary Human

    Steam:

    i think your initial instillation of the cpu has damaged the motherboard's cpu detection capabilities. its not dead but it physically cannot detect your cpu.

    or the cpu itself was damaged and not working

    its very rare for cpu coolers to over apply pressure on the cpus

    no one has asked but did you line the cpu correctly with the socket
    b/c when i first built mine with an i5 , i almost installed it with the triangle facing the wrong corner
     
  2. Meowcenary

    Meowcenary Gaben's Own Aimbot Contributor

    Steam:

    I installed it the right direction and I'm pretty sure I installed the processor right.

    No pins are bent on the bottom of the processor either that I'm aware of.
     
  3. White Moose

    White Moose Totally Ordinary Human

    Steam:

    well i think doa on the mobo is the best thing to do at the moment,
    once you get a new one install the cpu
    at which point if the problem persists it has to be the cpu

    i dont think the gpu is the issue.
    worst case you killed the cpu with static electricity
     
  4. Meowcenary

    Meowcenary Gaben's Own Aimbot Contributor

    Steam:

    I tried different GPU's

    I have my 950 and a 1060, 950 was working when i pulled it out and the 1060 (which i used to try to boot with) is the card im using right now which is working.
     
  5. Jermaphobe

    Jermaphobe Moderator Contributor Legendary Mapper

    Steam:

    Three things can prevent a motherboard from posting and that is if it does not detect a CPU or any memory installed, or the motherboard itself is dead. It would be difficult to test if the memory or CPU itself are bad if I am to assume your only components that support DDR4 and Zen is the motherboard that you bought for the new build. Right now our best lead to go on is if any LED's light up on power-up.
     
  6. Meowcenary

    Meowcenary Gaben's Own Aimbot Contributor

    Steam:

    My other memory is ddr3 on a intel board

    Gonna start throwing together the new parts now to see if any lights come on
     
  7. chuckwagon

    chuckwagon Australian Skial God Contributor

    Steam:

    Are you sure that you got all off the correct power supply connections to the mobo? The first time I built a computer I was stuck for a while because it didn't post because I forgot to connect a few power connections.
     
  8. chuckwagon

    chuckwagon Australian Skial God Contributor

    Steam:

    Start simple to eliminate possible problems. see if you can boot with mobo, cpu, 1 stick of ram and your integrated graphics. Not even a HDD. Just see if it will post with the simplest setup. Then you can start adding things to see if you can isolate the issue.
     
  9. chuckwagon

    chuckwagon Australian Skial God Contributor

    Steam:

    Also, what kind of connection is your monitor? VGA, DVI, DisplayPort, HDMI? I have seen mobo's that default to VGA and if you are using something different, you have to change it in the BIOS, which requires a VGA connection to be able to see the BIOS.
     
  10. Meowcenary

    Meowcenary Gaben's Own Aimbot Contributor

    Steam:

    Pretty sure I got them all but maybe I might of missed one. I'll triple check this time around

    I haven't started putting my new parts together yet because I noticed a tiny little amount of thermal paste got between 3-4 pins on the processor when a small amount leaked over the side when it was in use.

    I cleaned it up and can't visibly see anymore but I wonder if that may of been a issue

    I was using Artic silver 5 and saw this from their site:

    "Not Electrically Conductive:
    Arctic Silver 5 was formulated to conduct heat, not electricity.
    (While much safer than electrically conductive silver and copper greases, Arctic Silver 5 should be kept away from electrical traces, pins, and leads. While it is not electrically conductive, the compound is very slightly capacitive and could potentially cause problems if it bridges two close-proximity electrical paths."

    Hope I didn't fry something somehow when the thermal paste seeped between a few pins

    Ryzen doesn't use or support integrated graphics. Has to be used with a dedicated video card as far as I'm aware, unless it'll still boot into the bios without the video card? I can try it with and without the video card regardless

    If this picture is accurate I'm using DVI

    But I think both video cards only support DVI and HDMI
     
  11. chuckwagon

    chuckwagon Australian Skial God Contributor

    Steam:

    This may be your answer. I did a Rasperry Pi project where I got some solder in the GPIO pins and it wouldn’t boot. Once I de-soldered and did a cleaner job, it booted normally.

    Sorry, I thought I saw earlier where you tried connecting to the video out on your mobo. I am not familiar with Ryzen specs so I can’t speak to this.

    Ok. Are you sure that the monitor is set to receive DVI input? I apologize if this is a dumb question, tbh I have just skimmed most the posts of the thread so far.
     
  12. Meowcenary

    Meowcenary Gaben's Own Aimbot Contributor

    Steam:

    Yea I'm hoping that's all it is

    Once its completely dry I'm gonna pop it in and see how things go. Gonna also see (if my case wires are long enough for the power switch) if I can boot it outside the case on a anti-static bag just to see if its a possible grounding issue too


    Oh yeah I did try the motherboard connector earlier just for the hell of it. I'm not much sure about how Ryzen works either, I just heard it requires a dedicated GPU but figured trying the mobo anyway would be worth a shot.

    To be honest I'm not sure how to set it.

    Both my 950 and the new 1060 I'm currently using right now are both DVI and it picks both of them up automatically it seems. I just plug it into the video card and it picks it up without needing to do anything more.

    Is it possible I'm doing something wrong in that regard? The only options I have on this monitor are a 'source' button that doesn't let me actually select a source, it just cycles back and forth between "analog" and "digital" until it picks up a signal. The rest of the monitor's built in options are for brightness/contrast and things of that nature, but nothing related to connection types like dva or dvi or hdmi.

    I also feel its worth noting I'm using some monitor made in probably the early 2000's. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001254 (I assume this is the correct one based off the model name)
     
  13. chuckwagon

    chuckwagon Australian Skial God Contributor

    Steam:

    If sounds like your monitor ‘autosenses‘ the source so that doesn’t seem like the issue. Put me down for $5 on the thermal paste shorting the cpu pins.
     
  14. Jermaphobe

    Jermaphobe Moderator Contributor Legendary Mapper

    Steam:

    Artic Silver 5 does not conduct electricity. if it did it would of short-circuited my old FX-4300 back when I was still relatively new to PC building. I had gotten quite a bit of the stuff between the pins and it still worked fine after that.

    Of course it is not recommended to keep Artic Silver 5 between the pins, it isn't a total death sentence for the chip if carelessness leads to some of the compound leaking over and onto the pins
     
  15. chuckwagon

    chuckwagon Australian Skial God Contributor

    Steam:

     
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  16. Meowcenary

    Meowcenary Gaben's Own Aimbot Contributor

    Steam:

    Do you also think it could be a possible cause of my boot issue?

    Not necessarily of the frying the CPU variety, rather something similar to what Chuckwagon had with his raspberry pi not booting up until he cleaned it up

    I know the thermalpaste was connected to more than one pin and as the artic silver site said that could potentially cause issues when two close proximity electrical paths are bridged by the thermal paste. Those ryzen pins are really packed tight together

    I'm just leaving the processor over night to dry but I'll be testing it all out tomorrow again for LED errors included
     
  17. Meowcenary

    Meowcenary Gaben's Own Aimbot Contributor

    Steam:

    Also wanted to thank everyone for all the suggestions and help

    Really appreciate all you guys, I'd be lost without you all since my knowledge is practically non-existent on this stuff
     
  18. Meowcenary

    Meowcenary Gaben's Own Aimbot Contributor

    Steam:

    Dram and cpu led lights both come on

    The error led s meaning the boards saying the cpu and ram are either broke or defective according to the manual
     
  19. Meowcenary

    Meowcenary Gaben's Own Aimbot Contributor

    Steam:

    The cpu light and dram light turned on first boot attempt. Turned it off an d reseated the ram and turned it back on. Cpu and dram lights came on for a bit, went away, turned back on and turned off again. Reseated ram again in different slot and iirc it only displayed the vga error light.

    Now every boot attempt at this point is as follows whether I reseat ram in a new slot or not: cpu light turns on, dram turns on a split second later, both lights turn off, vga light turns on, then at the same time vga turns off and the "boot" error led turns on and stays on.
     
  20. Meowcenary

    Meowcenary Gaben's Own Aimbot Contributor

    Steam:

    Holy ass I'm a dumb ass. I just had to press the "source" button on my monitor and it brought it up. Booting into the bios no prob
    The lights may of been from me not seating my ram far enough in
    Boot light on is due to me not having a hdd plugged in as well I assume

    Thank you everyone for your help and suggestions. Appreciate y'all
     
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2017
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