New Changing Payload Servers to 40 player is a mistake

Sam Alt-Man

Sam Alt-Man

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I searched the forum but don't see discussion on the recent change. Changing the PL server to allow up to 40 players (plus VIP if any) is a mistake. The rounds already feel different. Areas of the map that were already prone to being unbalanced toward RED or BLU now feel unplayable at times. 32 was already a stretch beyond how the game was designed, but usually works. This takes it way beyond what these maps can handle. I'd vote we change it back.
 
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Bottiger when i payed for subscription it was 32 slot on payload EU , i didnt pay for a 40 slot. a lot of people don(t like it . plz give our server back like US server... plz really.
 
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So you are basically saying the same thing I am.

That a poll on the forums would be useless and not representative of the overall population.

Why bother repeating the same point I just made?
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Because the fact that people interact with the forum, as you rightly said, does not necessarily mean that they prefer 40 slots. This is people that have and haven't engaged with the thread stating their opinion since the change. I looked up players in the logs, so maybe some opinions may have been omitted.

PAYLOAD+ | EU ████03/27/2025 - 06:24:00 PM🔗flange40 players sux
PAYLOAD+ | EU ████03/25/2025 - 07:33:18 PM🔗Hell Strikeri yearn for the day this serv gets back to 32 players
PAYLOAD+ | EU ████03/23/2025 - 05:19:18 PM🔗Qosmotoo many people are lagging with 40 players
PAYLOAD+ | EU ████03/21/2025 - 09:27:28 PM🔗Dixielitterly no one wants 40 players lmao
PAYLOAD+ | EU ████03/19/2025 - 08:48:11 PM🔗TidningYeah the hitreg is worse on 40 players
PAYLOAD+ | EU ████03/19/2025 - 08:27:20 PM🔗Ausgebombtwell theres also nothing to talk about flange... 40 players sucks
PAYLOAD+ | EU ████03/19/2025 - 05:36:31 PM🔗Lössöc) it drops fps and hitreg
PAYLOAD+ | EU ████03/19/2025 - 05:36:25 PM🔗Lössöb) no 1v1 player interactions, all spam
PAYLOAD+ | EU ████03/19/2025 - 05:36:16 PM🔗Lössöa) maps are mainly designed for around 24 players to function well, this is 2x that many players
PAYLOAD+ | EU ████03/17/2025 - 07:23:06 PM🔗Fernandeswhy did they increase this to 40 players? way too much
PAYLOAD+ | EU ████03/14/2025 - 07:56:36 PM🔗kaparopabring back 32 players please
PAYLOAD+ | EU ████03/13/2025 - 07:35:35 PM🔗Pashkaserver is less playable with 40 players

Anyway, I believe the decision has already been made since the change was reverted for the US due to an 8% increase, but not for the EU because of its 25% increase. So, from my perspective, there's no further need to discuss this.
 
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Eriknaitor said:
Because the fact that people interact with the forum, as you rightly said, does not necessarily mean that they prefer 40 slots.
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I really don't get what point you're trying to make.

When did I ever claim that because people interact with the forum, that means people prefer 40 slots?

What I am saying is that the forums can't be used to draw any conclusions either way. Which is why I use player counts instead.
 
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I understand the numbers based argument, and if that's the main purpose of keeping 40 players on EU_PL then great, I get it. It's just a bit sad that this is the end of something. It's just a bunch of random players that have loved EU payload for a long time because it had something or other that's hard to quantify, idk, just a community of regulars drawn to play every night for months on end, slapping 10 dollars down to not have to wait to get in because they know it's going to be a good game.
They keep coming back right now because of the friends they've made there, but, that's starting to slip already. Doesn't matter, you'll still have your numbers, and I'm not going to argue the ins and outs of that, it is what it is. But, you have made something great into something a bit shit, because, numbers, but yano, you do what you need to do :/
 
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yo something is wrong, there is nobody in the server even with the changes. Maybe we should raise it to 50 players instead???
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So after 5+ years, everyone on the server suddenly got jobs in the past few months?
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If you were to assume that everyone has been playing on Skial for 5+ years, and considering the average age of EU players and the time of year, this is actually not a crazy suggestion, Also, lot of EU people have been doing exams and stuff for the last couple of months.
 
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Annoy all the regulars
Complete radio silence and or lies and coping from the mods about the issue they made
Regulars play less
eventually fix problem and never acknowledge the mistake.

The cycle is unbroken
 
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And now what happen ??? need advertissement ( this is the good word ? ) for this server plz , cause we are a lot of people who need 32 back
 
I love how most people still don't know about the 32 player server, no one joins from the site so they might not even know about a second EU Payload server. The "main" server is now 40 players and there has been no, to my knowledge, advertisement or announcement. The old server who everyone favorited is 40 players so they join that, it's convenient. The only time that I hear anything about the 32 player server is when regulars complain about the 40 player server and another regular suggests going to the 32 player server, but yknow it's kinda hard moving any, let alone 32, players to an empty server. SO good job! You kinda got what you wanted, at this point just shut the 32 player server down, don't waste any more of your precious money. :)
 
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Hi everyone,

I wont say what others have already well explained and argued about this topic. I Just wanted to add few things.

You said that you only see the same people on forum to complain about things. By the way it seemed to me it was more a conversation than complains but well ... No one understood the sudden change. You could expect reactions when you make such a change without notice neither explanation.

You also explained that you choose what's best to keep your server alive for years. I don't see the point to put away bots on 32 players. You had bots on all the servers to help players who try to fill it up. But I don't understand why they've been removed from some servers, won't you keep them alive ?

I've been playing on Skial servers for years because I enjoy to meet up a lot of regular players. It seems that nowadays they all vanished elsewhere. I even play on some other servers lately (which isn't my thing). I used to rather queue on skial to connect than playing on Uncletopia but since all the reasons I had to join Skial are vanishing, I have to try elsewhere... sadly.
 
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bowwow said:
I love how most people still don't know about the 32 player server, no one joins from the site so they might not even know about a second EU Payload server. The "main" server is now 40 players and there has been no, to my knowledge, advertisement or announcement.
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This guy already advertised to everyone on the server to move to the 32 slot server and got it filled for 2 days. Then the fad wore off.

https://www.skial.com/threads/peopl...-are-out-of-control.121387/page-5#post-897480

There's 0 reason for us to advertise. Very few people bother to look here unless they need to complain about something or report someone.

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I don't see the point to put away bots on 32 players. You had bots on all the servers to help players who try to fill it up. But I don't understand why they've been removed from some servers, won't you keep them alive ?
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Because the server was still dead all day and some people complained that they didn't want to play with bots so I removed them all.

And payload EU is now doing better than payload US.
 
Bottiger said:
This guy already advertised to everyone on the server to move to the 32 slot server and got it filled for 2 days. Then the fad wore off.

https://www.skial.com/threads/peopl...-are-out-of-control.121387/page-5#post-897480

There's 0 reason for us to advertise. Very few people bother to look here unless they need to complain about something or report someone.


Because the server was still dead all day and some people complained that they didn't want to play with bots so I removed them all.

And payload EU is now doing better than payload US.
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Genuine question, mostly out of interest than any argument about the 40 player issue... is it expected for these servers to filled during the day? The main player base for EU seems to be of certain age range where it's unlikely to ever be highly populated outside of working hours. Also, I think the point about advertising was that we have seen other Skial Servers advertised in-game on EU... Parkour, Warioware, and others, but there was never any effort to do that for 32 PL_EU, I don't think the suggestion was to advertise on the forum. "the fad wore off", because why would players want spend their time advertising it for days on end. Yet when they did, people joined the other server.
 
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