New Bring back steamworks to tf2 deathrun

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by The Billycock Spy, Nov 28, 2019.

  1. Crinitus_

    Crinitus_ Mildly Menacing Medic

    I'd also like to add my input on this. If Wintervalley was brought back, then why can't Steamworks be brought back either? If I recall correctly they were both removed at the exact same time for the exact same reason (unpopularity). Now I see Wintervalley played quite frequently, compared to actually underplayed maps such as R60D, Home Sweet Home, and Manor (the last of which is only voted by trolls SOLELY to be exploited on via stalling as Hale due to 10/10 map design).
     
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  2. Prismo

    Prismo Truly Feared Pyro Contributor

    Steam:

    +1
    It should be noted that, yes, while there are people who leave the game due to the server picking a difficult map, for the most part, the US servers always remains highly populated despite the map being something shitty (not pointing fingers but uhhh dr_meme_factory), as @kerpkek and @Awes previously mentioned. Not everyone is on the server purely just because they want to enjoy a map they prefer, the interactions within the community itself should also be taken into account.
     
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  3. kerpkek

    kerpkek Mildly Menacing Medic

    Steam:

    So with the explanation of "it's unpopular" being given as the reason for removal, why has dr_school_run now been added back into rotation? That map is almost universally despised by everyone and was rtv'd far more than normal
     
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  4. Dragontamer

    Dragontamer TF2 Admin Contributor

    Steam:

    +1
     
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  5. Bottiger

    Bottiger Administrator

    Steam:

    Because it regained some popularity when it was being run on servers outside of Skial. It is still at the bottom of the popularity list and it is probably likely to be removed again.

    dr_school_run was added back because I tried to replace it with https://www.skial.com/threads/dr-return-dr_school_redux-due-to-the-major-update.84520/ which had severe problems due to it being made by BadToad.

    After I removed dr_school_redux I forgot to add dr_school_run back. It wasn't unpopular enough to remove yet.
     
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  6. Noahfresh

    Noahfresh Mildly Menacing Medic

    Actually, Winter Valley is still being played a lot, I've seen it a lot more than a lot of other maps at this point like school run, walkway, r60d and even Lazytown, which was one of the most popular maps a while back. Not to mention that Dust and Manor are universally hated by a large portion of the community, only nominated by trolls or players who don't know the maps. I'd say it's a good time to add Steamworks back as the harder maps are starting to get popular again.
     
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  7. kerpkek

    kerpkek Mildly Menacing Medic

    Steam:

    I see wintervalley selected far more often than manor, school run, R60D, cyberpunk, home sweet home, or psykopat 2
     
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  8. Prismo

    Prismo Truly Feared Pyro Contributor

    Steam:

    We're still arguing yet I think the point that was overlooked was the fact that the US server almost never runs low on players. You could add in a map that literally has no textures and there would still be at least 20 or so players online. From my experience within Skial's deathrun servers over the years, I can say that (reiterating my previous point) under no circumstances will the servers go completely barren if something like Steamworks is picked.
     
  9. Jermaphobe

    Jermaphobe Moderator Contributor Legendary Mapper

    Steam:

    People thought the same thing about 2Fort+ LA and it lost its main playerbase
     
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  10. Prismo

    Prismo Truly Feared Pyro Contributor

    Steam:

    It's a map, that can be voted off at any given point.
     
  11. kerpkek

    kerpkek Mildly Menacing Medic

    Steam:

    Adding steamworks would not do this to deathrun
     
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  12. Noahfresh

    Noahfresh Mildly Menacing Medic

    By adding Steamworks literally people wouldn't care. It's a hard map and people like that, but when you add shit like Dust or Manor with the trap where you can't get past unless hale activates it, people start getting mad and leaving. The playerbase of dr won't suddenly disappear once it gets added, since there are always other maps. With something like 2fort+, if they don't like the map then they have to leave since you can't rtv that.
     
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  13. ❤ Alice-Chan ❤

    ❤ Alice-Chan ❤ Mildly Menacing Medic

    Steam:

    Personally, I don't see an issue with adding it back to atleast test and see how it would fare against other maps. I mean surely there are some maps that actually never even get played so I don't think its fair to think that most maps dont get people leaving if they arent even played.
     
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  14. soos

    soos Notably Dangerous Demo-Knight

    Steam:

    +1 you deathrun dudes are fighting hard for this map, so ill give my support. Gl, id like to see this map added
     
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