• If you are not the person that was banned/muted, you are only allowed to post evidence. Trash talk is unnecessary.
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Coach John McGuirk

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Link to your ban or your com block:
Why should you be unbanned or unblocked?:
Okay, so I was playing on NY Skial Dustbowl as I always do, been playing there for over a year now and have never been muted or banned for any reason whatsoever.

I also do not ever use a mic but tend to type messages. Recently I have been involved in online bickering of a non serious nature with another player, he harasses me, I harass him, but nothing more than that. I apparently got under his skin to about a bind when he would die that I posted, even though he was mic trash talking me the entire time, and he filled out a ban report and within five minutes I was gagged and muted for 1440 mins without any warning whatsoever. Then without my knowledge that this would happen, I changed my name to my bind and was banned within ten seconds of that, again with no warning whatsoever for "dodging." I had no knowledge that change your steam name would bypass a mute or gag, and was never warned or anything. I checked the ban list on skial.com, and was banned by an admin that just so happens to be on the friends list of the person I was bickering with. Also it was posted as a 1 day ban, then went up to a 3 day ban for no apparent reason either. I asked for clarification from the Admin in question "DaivdBaekr" and he simply said "using 4 binds in 5 seconds is chat spamming," even though if it would have been me typing that to anyone else other than his friend I'm sure noone would have made any big deal about it. So now I have a 3 day ban because without my knowledge I "dodged" a mute gag that was placed on me under whatever circumstances. Not everyone that types alot of messages gets gagged or muted on that server this I know from experience.

As I said, its my normal place to play, I've never had any run ins with admins or bans, mutes, or anything of the sort, so its disappointing to me that it would seem this admin would see it necessary to mute and ban without any warning over something so trivial.​
 
I guess what it comes down to is if I would have been talking on my mic instead of typing for whatever reason there wouldn't have been a reason to gag me, then ban me for this kid's admin friend.
 
Link to your ban or your com block:
Why should you be unbanned or unblocked?:
Okay, so I was playing on NY Skial Dustbowl as I always do, been playing there for over a year now and have never been muted or banned for any reason whatsoever.

I also do not ever use a mic but tend to type messages. Recently I have been involved in online bickering of a non serious nature with another player, he harasses me, I harass him, but nothing more than that. I apparently got under his skin to about a bind when he would die that I posted, even though he was mic trash talking me the entire time, and he filled out a ban report and within five minutes I was gagged and muted for 1440 mins without any warning whatsoever. Then without my knowledge that this would happen, I changed my name to my bind and was banned within ten seconds of that, again with no warning whatsoever for "dodging." I had no knowledge that change your steam name would bypass a mute or gag, and was never warned or anything. I checked the ban list on skial.com, and was banned by an admin that just so happens to be on the friends list of the person I was bickering with. Also it was posted as a 1 day ban, then went up to a 3 day ban for no apparent reason either. I asked for clarification from the Admin in question "DaivdBaekr" and he simply said "using 4 binds in 5 seconds is chat spamming," even though if it would have been me typing that to anyone else other than his friend I'm sure noone would have made any big deal about it. So now I have a 3 day ban because without my knowledge I "dodged" a mute gag that was placed on me under whatever circumstances. Not everyone that types alot of messages gets gagged or muted on that server this I know from experience.

As I said, its my normal place to play, I've never had any run ins with admins or bans, mutes, or anything of the sort, so its disappointing to me that it would seem this admin would see it necessary to mute and ban without any warning over something so trivial.​
  • Admins aren't required to warn people. Many don't because people don't listen and they're expected to be aware of the few rules in place to begin with.
  • http://www.skial.com/threads/admin-info.82/ Dodging was changed to 3 days because it was a second offense.
  • As I've already told you via Steam IMs, I do not know Genocide very well. We've had 3 conversations total since he's added me. All of them were reports.
 
In other words, he can trash talk all day long on his mic, but as soon as a player gets under his skin and he gets flustered, he finds a way for you to mute/gag/ban them.
Hopefully there's another Admin that can help me.
 
In other words, he can trash talk all day long on his mic, but as soon as a player gets under his skin and he gets flustered, he finds a way for you to mute/gag/ban them.
Hopefully there's another Admin that can help me.
Hey!
So, I can confirm that Daivdbaekr did take the right action here, and that warnings are not required.
Trash talking is not against the rules, but spamming and dodging are. You can take another look at them here: http://www.skial.com/threads/server-rules.136/
You will have to wait out the three days as your reason was valid, unless Daivd decides otherwise.
Thank you for taking the time to play on our servers!
 
That doesn't seem accurate, I was gagged for 1440 mins for spamming, then banned 1 day for dodging, then it was changed to 3. Not trying to argue, but thats the series of events.
 
That doesn't seem accurate, I was gagged for 1440 mins for spamming, then banned 1 day for dodging, then it was changed to 3. Not trying to argue, but thats the series of events.
Most admins tend to ban for a day and then accommodate it on sourcebans based on past offenses, which Daivd did to you. Hope that helps clear up confusion!
 
Not at all, but whatever.

They're saying you broke one rule and were punished for it. First offense = 1 day

You turned around and broke another rule right after that. Second offense = 3 days

Most admins will simply silence/ban someone for 1 day and then later change the punishment length to the correct time in sourcebans. So if you were supposed to be banned for 3 days on the spot, most admins would ban you for 1 day on the spot and then go to Sourcebans and alter it to 3 days. It's more convenient for us to do it this way.
 
Then what was the point of mute gagging me for 1440 mins on the server if he was going to ban me? Why not just ban me to begin with? I'm just trying to understand
 
Then what was the point of mute gagging me for 1440 mins on the server if he was going to ban me? Why not just ban me to begin with? I'm just trying to understand
I don't presume people are going to change their names to bypass a mute and take the option of a ban.
Happens most times, though. Not sure what else folks expect to happen by doing that.
 
I simply expect fair play and non biased decisions. If someone is attempting to harass and bully me, I'm going to stand up for myself simple and plain. I don't expect to be muted and banned for sticking up for myself
 
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