Kjo

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I don't know why it was removed because of "statistics" but I would really like back please and thank you

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Wasn't too fond of the map and the minigames aren't universally friendly for a new player to comprehend the objective at hand sometimes.
Not aware of the game exploits there are but it was just eh, something I would stall with the motivator on out of boredom.

Nothing personal, I rather have new players enjoying the game mode before harder maps are all over the place.
What about the people who DO like dr_scooby_doo? Do their opinions not matter?
And why should all the minigames have to be braindead easy? The actual deathrun part is more important anyway and minigames for the most part should be a gamble on whether or not the runners can actually win.

Not everything has to hold your hand along the way since that may as well be an insult to seasoned players who are used to the gamemode and all the mechanics a map can provide. "New players" and the "general audience" need to realize that that things like basic surf slopes or simple platforming are not literally Dark Souls, or the entire gamemode will be stale because of people who don't want to learn that you don't hold W when sliding along a slope or what crouch-jumping is and how doing so makes you jump higher thanks to Source Engine jank. It's easy to get a hang of once you practice it a few times.

Am I advocating for everything to be dr_neonoir? No, but there needs to be variety so everything isn't just dr_hallway.
 
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What about the people who DO like dr_scooby_doo? Do their opinions not matter?
And why should all the minigames have to be braindead easy? The actual deathrun part is more important anyway and minigames for the most part should be a gamble on whether or not the runners can actually win.

Not everything has to hold your hand along the way since that may as well be an insult to seasoned players who are used to the gamemode and all the mechanics a map can provide. "New players" and the "general audience" need to realize that that things like basic surf slopes or simple platforming are not literally Dark Souls, or the entire gamemode will be stale because of people who don't want to learn that you don't hold W when sliding along a slope or what crouch-jumping is and how doing so makes you jump higher thanks to Source Engine jank. It's easy to get a hang of once you practice it a few times.

Am I advocating for everything to be dr_neonoir? No, but there needs to be variety so everything isn't just dr_hallway.

We have to focus on everyone involved.

The sole reason why this map is not being added back is that it poses harm to the count. Bottiger or Cream Tea gets the blame when their observations were reflective of what happened before. Probably a valid reason stands for why ilikespace is also not being added. What's important is to keep engagement and the server running for longevity.

Truthfully, scooby doo is falling out of style. New generations come, and things in the past get left behind tragically. Digital circus has been performing strongly to emphasize where the demand is now. We need a dr_redacted, or dr_6_7, for name staples to maintain intrigue for new players who may be scrolling community servers. It's just the way it is. If you want to make a business decision that deviates from the standard, you have to consider risk management. More to discuss, but I will digress.
 
We have to focus on everyone involved.

The sole reason why this map is not being added back is that it poses harm to the count. Bottiger or Cream Tea gets the blame when their observations were reflective of what happened before. Probably a valid reason stands for why ilikespace is also not being added. What's important is to keep engagement and the server running for longevity.

Truthfully, scooby doo is falling out of style. New generations come, and things in the past get left behind tragically. Digital circus has been performing strongly to emphasize where the demand is now. We need a dr_redacted, or dr_6_7, for name staples to maintain intrigue for new players who may be scrolling community servers. It's just the way it is. If you want to make a business decision that deviates from the standard, you have to consider risk management. More to discuss, but I will digress.
id rather have the server die than have corridor slop on 24/7
 
id rather have the server die than have corridor slop on 24/7

Get into mapping and challenge the status quo by bringing in variety. You can make a jailbreak map easily without needing a server just for starters.

You can emphasize how correlation isn’t causation from how new players perform, but it doesn’t change the fact that retro prefers to cling to a fad and stay restricted. I can only wish them luck on their future endeavors.

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I swear you guys suck ass at playing Scooby-Doo. Get better.

Then replace it from JungleMines. I never observe new players coming in for that map. You came in during hawk tuah era. Many did from forums. Only person registering in to object against the removal of JungleMines would be who? (Probably Uld, but his only shtick is to replicate duke nukem’s voice than hold an ounce of originality) Where’s the Pandora’s box? Or just forum thumpers pressuring Bottiger to keep maps over the sake of his own server’s health?
 
Only person registering in to object against the removal of JungleMines would be who?
Me. I love that map. I literally made an entire guide on it.

Why even replace that map specifically? There are many other maps in the pool that should be removed first, at least over JM. (Cocainum, Among Us, Office, Hawk Tuah, etc.) If your only excuse is that you're bad at it, then that's not a reason. It's not a hard map to complete, especially compared to Scooby Doo.
 
Only person registering in to object against the removal of JungleMines would be who? (Probably Uld, but his only shtick is to replicate duke nukem’s voice than hold an ounce of originality)
You clearly weren't here when people missed it after it was removed for being "too hard".
 
Me. I love that map. I literally made an entire guide on it.

Why even replace that map specifically? There are many other maps in the pool that should be removed first, at least over JM. (Cocainum, Among Us, Office, Hawk Tuah, etc.) If your only excuse is that you're bad at it, then that's not a reason. It's not a hard map to complete, especially compared to Scooby Doo.

That’s the stake. The map stays for that, not for other mechanisms those other maps listed deliver (bringing new players).

No one gives a care here about how the server goes once they go nighty night. Others have their own preferences. Time goes by and eventually they may be pulled, it’s not about sticking to a fad. It’s about being strategic in observing how this server can stay full. Other competitors don’t want that edge when their servers are dead. And if that keeps up in Skial then we will be just one of the same.

You clearly weren't here when people missed it after it was removed for being "too hard".

And the map was never visited in EU during those times. It wasn’t too hard, it lost appeal like all other maps do. That’s why it was pulled initially until it was added back out of spite than logistics.
 
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I don't know why it was removed because of "statistics" but I would really like back please and thank you

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+1! I like this map! I wasn't an expert at it, but I wanted to keep playing so I could learn and progress! It kinda shocks me how players don't seem to like challenging themselves and getting better? That's something I always loved about deathrun in general, but I've been playing for a really long time so forgive me for being nostalgic.
 
Then replace it from JungleMines. I never observe new players coming in for that map. You came in during hawk tuah era. Many did from forums. Only person registering in to object against the removal of JungleMines would be who? (Probably Uld, but his only shtick is to replicate duke nukem’s voice than hold an ounce of originality) Where’s the Pandora’s box? Or just forum thumpers pressuring Bottiger to keep maps over the sake of his own server’s health?

Never have I seen someone Cope harder than before by typing this shit here.

Also, you're wrong, because, Once again, I have to say it: it's not just Meltdown, or Junglemines, that I'm into. I'm down for just about any map, AS LONG as they are well made and have an actual decent theme, rather than some dumb fucking meme-filled corridor slop where you just hold down W and nothing else.

And once again, I know a good map when I see one. I have nearly two decades worth of experience on custom maps and such, so I know what the hell I'm talking about.

So, uhh.... Here. Take the L, you must've dropped it on your way out.
 
Never have I seen someone Cope harder than before by typing this shit here.

Also, you're wrong, because, Once again, I have to say it: it's not just Meltdown, or Junglemines, that I'm into. I'm down for just about any map, AS LONG as they are well made and have an actual decent theme, rather than some dumb fucking meme-filled corridor slop where you just hold down W and nothing else.

And once again, I know a good map when I see one. I have nearly two decades worth of experience on custom maps and such, so I know what the hell I'm talking about.

So, uhh.... Here. Take the L, you must've dropped it on your way out.
Every map does not even just hold w on every memes map or actual made map has some platforming and making a decent map and actual theme like Mario and Pokémon takes around couple months or years to make and some maps u don’t even hold W because there disappearing platform, hazards, and etc