(cYs) Del Piero

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This post will get updated as the discussion goes on

Problems on trade servers:
  • An increasing number of micspammers.
  • A lack of admin presence
  • Griefing / trolling (especially during spycrabs)
  • Scamming
  • On US20 people trade weapons and other low items.
I propose four. new rules to our trade server:
  • Using the Voice Chat for insults or other kind of spam should not be allowed and result in a temp. ban. On other trade servers (Rawr, TF2-Trader bans for micspam and insulting go from 3 days to 1 week for the first time doing it). The voice chat should only be used for trading, spycrabbing or other relevant topics. Chatting should only be allowed if nobody uses the voice chat otherwise and if it doesn't bother other users.
  • If two people spycrab then others are not allowed to interfere the spycrabbing. It's most annoying if a third player decides to troll the spycrabbing. Example for people interefering the spycrabbing are people killing the two spys or people pushing them around.
  • If a steamrep scammer tries to remove his [SCAMMER] tag by doing a name change he should get banned.
  • Free To Play Accounts are not allowed to join.
Other suggestions:
  • On the unusual hat trade server, US20, killing should not be allowed. People should trade there and do spycrabs. If they want to play they should join other servers. This can either be enforced by giving god-mod to all players or by making all players join the same team. If some one tries to one the other team he gets automatically changed to team Blue. If someone wants to be able to die then he can use the /buddah command. Buddah still doesn't solve some griefing problems where
  • !rep command. It can be found on many trade servers. The purpose of it is to check someones rep at www.steamrep.com Example: !rep piero --> my steamrep opens.
  • A higher admin presence on trade servers is required as well. Anya, Airakah and Roman muted/banned severall players in the last days who scammed or spammed the chat. Admins should not refuse to join trade servers if there is a problem even if they don't trade themselves. When Cinic was admin, he used to join the second after I called him. Every admin should act like this.
  • People who don't trade unusuals or other high-end (promo-)items such as Buds, Bills, Maxs, Houwars and others, should be warned and hinted to our other trade servers. Someone selling weapons or doing scrapbanking should not join an Unusual Hat Trade Server. If they don't leave other measurements should be taken (kick, temporary ban if the person rejoins).
  • No begging
  • Adding !jetpack
Summary(this will get updated as the discussion goes on)
In my eyes:
  • Most agree that we need to protect spycrabbing games.
  • Nobody has disagreed with that SteamRep scammers renaming themselves should get an instant ban
  • Putting all people in 1 team would be better than buddah. Buddah is better than nothing though. The majority agrees on that the solution could look like this: http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/6239/screenshot20120115at152.png
  • The !rep command was already present. Nobody happend to know that. It is !sr
  • Nobody disagreed with that we need a higher admin presence
  • There are mixed opinions about whether the voice chat should be used for trades only or not. The majority agrees that the chat can be used for other conversations if nobody is using the voice chat for trading. Once people use it for trading other conversations need to end. Weird noises and insults should not be tollerated
  • A slight majority agreed on that on US20 only Unusuals, High-End items and promos should be traded. People who don't trade unusuals should get waned and kicked. http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/1152/screenshot20120115at205.png
  • A Plugin is needed that kicks F2P when they try to join.
  • Nobody disagrees with that begging is annoying and that beggars should get kicked.
  • Everyone voted yes to add !jetpack
  • Also, a text box suggestion for unusual traders trading on normal trade servers would be great :) It'd direct them to the unusual trading server.
 
So where are we with this? We have gotten with Faron8 a trade admin but what about the other topics that were discussed?
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I just played on EU2:2020 and saw that the spycrabbing problem there is less bad. Mostly because there as pyro you can't push people around with airblast! It must have been disabled.
I suggest disabling it on US20 as well.
 
I just played on EU2:2020 and saw that the spycrabbing problem there is less bad. Mostly because there as pyro you can't push people around with airblast! It must have been disabled.
I suggest disabling it on US20 as well.
i've been airblasted on EU trade. one team can do it the other cant
 
We also need to filter out the people not buying/selling buds or unusuals on us20. Haven't thought of anything yet.
 
What about me buying/selling things like keys or strange and things over 1 ref?
buds, unusuals, HOUWAR'S, max's and holiday hadcases are the only things allowed.

I also think it should be buds+ not bills because bills is not a hi-end item.
 
buds, unusuals, HOUWAR'S, max's and holiday hadcases are the only things allowed.

I also think it should be buds+ not bills because bills is not a hi-end item.
The majority so far agreed on that bills are allowed to be traded there. It's new to me that they aren't.
 
Being on the same team also allows you to use the "F" key on anybody to check out his hat, not only half the servers.

But if the killing is disabled we need something else to kill the time while spamming the chatbox with our offer, because it can get soo boring after a while... Need a huge map with normal gravity settings to practice rocket and sticky jumping for example.
 
As I said before, bills is not a hi-end item so it should not be included on us20.
The more items we prohibit on US20 the less people trade there. Sometimes the server is already empty without limiting any items. We need to consider this as well.

Being on the same team also allows you to use the "F" key on anybody to check out his hat, not only half the servers.
I agree. That's why I suggested to put everyone on the same team and the majority so far agreed on that.

But if the killing is disabled we need something else to kill the time while spamming the chatbox with our offer, because it can get soo boring after a while... Need a huge map with normal gravity settings to practice rocket and sticky jumping for example.
The other Unusual Hat Trade Server don't have a huge mp with low gravity where you can practice rocket jump or stick jump. I worry then that people might just join to practice and not to trade.
 
Yeah, I'm still gonna trade whatever I want on us20.
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That depends on what suggestions are brought into new rules by Roman and Bottiger. If they prohibit trading low items on US20 then I guess you can't do it anymore.
Also you are not being very helpful by saying you trade low items on an unusual hat trade server. Why don't you trade them on US2 or EU:2020? US20 has the Unusual Tag for a reason

What if people want to trade Team Captains for a low-tier unusual? Shoot on sight?
These people would be trolling since that's impossible. The lowest unusuls start at around 1 buds or 25 keys. Team Captain is around 7 ref (less than 3 keys)