• If you are not the person that was banned/muted, you are only allowed to post evidence. Trash talk is unnecessary.
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wasd

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Hello

I have very recently been banned from Skial for abusing the use of the votemenu system:
http://www.skial.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&advSearch=STEAM_0:0:45551650&advType=steamid

For this:
http://www.skial.com/stats/hlstats.php?mode=chathistory&player=720037&page=6
2012-09-25 12:58:47 goddam it frag. 
2012-09-25 12:58:19 so close. 
2012-09-25 12:57:44 yes please. 
2012-09-25 12:57:39 /votemenu ban #STEAM_0:0:41923539. 
2012-09-25 12:57:24 !votemenu. 
2012-09-25 12:56:41 the bearded kermit. 
2012-09-25 12:56:31 that guy's a dickhead. 
2012-09-25 12:56:26 i'm serious.
2012-09-25 12:56:22 guys?. 
2012-09-25 12:56:15 should we ban him as soon as he comes on?. 
2012-09-25 12:56:04 rtv.
2012-09-25 12:55:51 the bearded kermit. 
2012-09-25 12:55:50 that guy again. 

Please allow me to attempt to explain my reasons behind attempting to votemute him. I wanted to votemute him because the previous time I had encountered him on Payload+, he was impersonating an admin of my clan and started falsely inviting people into the clan and encouraging people to put the tag in their names.

Evidence from chat logs (I removed server chat from other people to make for easier reading):
Server chat from our previous encounter: http://www.skial.com/stats/hlstats.php?mode=chat&game=tf&server_id=109&filter=&page=51
2012-09-23 11:21:03 [ᴘᴘᴘ] The Bearded Kermit you r now an honurary member pl_frontier_final
2012-09-23 11:18:32 [ppp] r3dl0ck2 watch me play pro shotty heavy pl_frontier_final
2012-09-23 11:17:58 [ppp] r3dl0ck2 im super gud pl_frontier_final
2012-09-23 11:17:57 [ᴘᴘᴘ] The Bearded Kermit perhaps pl_frontier_final

2012-09-23 11:17:51 [ppp] r3dl0ck2 hey baerded can I join
2012-09-23 11:16:02 [ᴘᴘᴘ] Casperr can i be admin?
2012-09-23 11:16:02 [ᴘᴘᴘ] The Bearded Kermit founding* pl_frontier_final
2012-09-23 11:15:56 [ᴘᴘᴘ] The Bearded Kermit foudning member pl_frontier_final
pl_frontier_final
pl_frontier_final
2012-09-23 11:15:48 [ᴘᴘᴘ] Casperr how did you get in if you werent invited? pl_frontier_final
2012-09-23 11:15:42 [ᴘᴘᴘ] SuddenlyStarMia not you pl_frontier_final

2012-09-23 11:15:40 [ᴘᴘᴘ] The Bearded Kermit if i did i didn't mean to pl_frontier_final
2012-09-23 11:15:38 [ᴘᴘᴘ] The Bearded Kermit what who did that vote pl_frontier_final
2012-09-23 11:15:20 [ᴘᴘᴘ] The Bearded Kermit whoops caps pl_frontier_final
2012-09-23 11:15:19 [ᴘᴘᴘ] SuddenlyStarMia he's not good enough pl_frontier_final
2012-09-23 11:15:18 [ᴘᴘᴘ] The Bearded Kermit YOU DON'T GET INVITED pl_frontier_final
2012-09-23 11:15:18 [ᴘᴘᴘ] SuddenlyStarMia alol never pl_frontier_final
2012-09-23 11:15:18 [ᴘᴘᴘ] Casperr hey kermit when did you get invited to ppp?
The Bearded Kermit's chat logs: http://www.skial.com/stats/hlstats.php?mode=chathistory&player=631099&page=3

Screenshots of people who had changed their name:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=98563502
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=98595332
The PPPs shown as my friends are real members.

PrintScreen of Kermit's current Steam groups (to show he is not a member of any group with "PPP" for initials):
http://whoistheroman.com/ImgHost/ON

I had merely wanted to prevent the same deeply unpleasant situation from occuring again and acted in defence. I understand that I abused votemenu, but the votemute did not pass and he was not muted, so no lasting harm was done.

I have been a regular on Skial servers almost ever since I started playing Team Fortress 2. I have never previously been banned and abide by the server rules. This rare discrepancy in my usual behaviour has caused me to be banned. I understand that it would be unjust to unban me, therefore I am appealing for a reduced ban time on the grounds that I will not do this again and that this is a very rare occurence on my behalf.

Thank you for your time.
 
Wait, YOU got banned?
Oh lol another clan tag deal. Its just a fucking name tag, theres no rule that says you cant burgle clan tags. 2 weeks isnt that long. Wait it out.
 
2012-09-25 12:56:15 should we ban him as soon as he comes on?. 
case and point.
 
2012-09-25 12:56:15 should we ban him as soon as he comes on?. 
report abuse.
This.

We've discussed this already, we don't ban people for tags.
You know this, and you called a vote against something you know we didn't support, so report abuse.

Also, another thing
If it was abuse from both sides, use !report, not spam votes.
 
if it was voteabuse on both sides why should you be unbanned?
I'm not asking for an unban, but a reduced ban time considering that this is my first ever ban, I almost never break server rules and promised good future behaviour.
 
Two wrongs do not make a right. Grow up.
I'm not justifying my behaviour, but explaining it. I'm merely appealing for a reduction in ban length on the grounds that I almost never break server rules, this is my first ever ban and promised good future behaviour.
 
And this is why I never use tags clan tags outside of matches. Because they're pointless and people tend to make a big pointless deal out of them.
 
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And this is why I never use tags clan tags outside of matches. Because they're pointless and people tend to make a big pointless deal out of them.
This. Honestly, I'm so tired of issues related to this.
 
do you know what i find is really, really, hilarious? Is that you are lieing to me.

1. you did not try to votemute him you did a voteban
#2 is my favorite you ready?
2. yOU CUT OUT A PART OF THE CHATLOG
For this:
http://www.skial.com/stats/hlstats.php?mode=chathistory&player=720037&page=6
2012-09-25 12:58:47 goddam it frag. 
2012-09-25 12:58:19 so close. 
2012-09-25 12:57:44 yes please. 
2012-09-25 12:57:39 /votemenu ban #STEAM_0:0:41923539. 
2012-09-25 12:57:24 !votemenu. 
2012-09-25 12:57:00 because he's not a real ppp.
2012-09-25 12:56:41 the bearded kermit. 
2012-09-25 12:56:31 that guy's a dickhead. 
2012-09-25 12:56:26 i'm serious.
2012-09-25 12:56:22 guys?. 
2012-09-25 12:56:15 should we ban him as soon as he comes on?. 
2012-09-25 12:56:04 rtv.
2012-09-25 12:55:51 the bearded kermit. 
2012-09-25 12:55:50 that guy again. 


This is why your ban is two weeks. You tried to ban him for the ppp tag. You knew for a fact, 100% without a doubt that he is not breaking any rules. And yet, you still tried to ban him.

locked. Answer is no
 
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