Weapon talk: Reserve shooter.
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Puff a pyro with the degreaser, airblast, flare, and they still have well over half of their hp left and can go ahead and wreck you with a few shotgun blasts on the way down.
If they were low enough HP to die from that, you could have just whipped out a shotty and saved yourself some time and degreaser ammo.
Shiny Charizard
Legendary Skial King
Probably because you're using a pointless airblast, if you just degreaser autoswitch flare, it would crit... I do it all the time
Shiny Charizard
Legendary Skial King
By the time you switch to flare, you wasted the pyro being on fire time with the airblast, causing a 30 damage instead of 90 (108 or 135 if the game engine decides to glitch out? o_O;)
Or you could go ahead and airblast him, switch to the reserve shooter, and rape. Because, yanno, that half a second window of a possibility of 90 damage is much more practical than an almost guaranteed two shots of 45-80 damage each over a couple of seconds if not much longer.
LOL
I'm sure it's a shit soldier weapon, that's why it's banned from every league (with only a handful of other weapons like the Phlog and the Pomson)... It's a straight upgrade, in 6v6 it would be too op, Scouts can't avoid mini crits and splash damage at the same time.
I'm sure it's a shit soldier weapon, that's why it's banned from every league (with only a handful of other weapons like the Phlog and the Pomson)... It's a straight upgrade, in 6v6 it would be too op, Scouts can't avoid mini crits and splash damage at the same time.
Shiny Charizard
Legendary Skial King
Shiny Charizard
Legendary Skial King
Check what I said.
I wasn't talking about the league which runs vanilla configs except for the medic saying hurr durr it's banned here therefore op... I'm talking about the leagues which even allow the Spycicle to be used.
Disagree, if you are fast enough at weapon swap you can nail the 90. I flare punch pyros all the time, to me I don't like the reserve shooter simply because I'm very accurate with the flare and it hardly seems necessary to use it if I can nail flares even half the time across the map.
For Soldiers, I agree straight shotgun is a better choice, reserve shooter is a gimmicky weapon at best, it's not a straight upgrade for either class. It is what updates should do, adds a new gimmick that is fun...I personally dislike it for either class, but I can see why others do.
Edit:
and to Dave's point, if they pull out their shotgun after I flare punch them, I'm normally close enough to give em a whack with the ol powerjack. A good pyro should be able to kill another good pyro if they use either shotgun, but I personally prefer being able to harass medics and heavies and other classes I'm weak against from a distance. It's a preference thing it's why these debates are dumb.
lol, he'd win if I used flare, I would never use flare in MGE vs pyro - not that I'd pyro vs pyro mge anyway since that is fucking horrible. Pyro vs pyro almost always turns into a shotgun fight. I was merely saying that you can get around the downside of the flare if you know how to flare punch quickly enough. I have always been hardcore about the flaregun tho, to me it is a straight upgrade over the shotgun minus vs other pyros.
The flare and reserve shooter are both straight upgrades if used properly. The difference is that the reserve shooter is still a straight upgrade against other pyros.
hXcjedders
Australian Skial God
Both are better against different classes - reserve shooter helps you against other pyros, and arguably scouts - just about any other class the flare gun is a more desirable choice. Flare lets you do massive damage while staying outside the effective range of soldiers, heavies, engies. One crit flare to a demoman who isn't being healed will kill him unless he finds water or health. I can't really think of a situation that the flare gun isn't ideal unless we're speaking about against other pyros. If I were fighting another pyro however, I'd much prefer to have the stock shotgun as it's more reliable, if a pyro with the reserve comes at me, I certainly wouldn't let him get close enough to airblast me, I'd just backpedal and pump my shotgun that has a fuck ton more ammo into him.
My honest opinion on the reserve shooter is it's a complete sidegrade, not an upgrade.