Huh dont normally comment on feedback but we all sometimes make jokes about the other servers. But I'm sorry I don't remember ever saying that?You call people that play at NY
monkeys.
Me and cherry saw when you commented that, it was at defense2002 if my memory doesn't fail.Huh dont normally comment on feedback but we all sometimes make jokes about the other servers. But I'm sorry I don't remember ever saying that?
I checked my logs and well I've never said that before, or it was ages ago. Or I guess i could've said it in vc? If I did sorry I obviously didn't mean it an any offensive way.Me and cherry saw when you commented that, it was at defense2002 if my memory doesn't fail
aightI checked my logs and well I've never said that before, or it was ages ago. Or I guess i could've said it in vc? If I did sorry I obviously didn't mean it an any offensive way.
Yeah thats my bad sorry about that. Those morons have been calling random votes for ages I just ended up tuning it out. again sorry I can keep my eye out now for thatretracting my +1 due to failure to report voteabuse
ZOMBIE ESCAPE | US ██ 08/15/2023 - 05:15:31 PM LizzieSteph Nice slay dumbass lol
ZOMBIE ESCAPE | US ██ 08/15/2023 - 05:15:56 PM LizzieSteph I don't really care but don't make random joke votes like that lol
disappointing to see you say that considering on your app you saidYeah thats my bad sorry about that. Those morons have been calling random votes for ages I just ended up tuning it out. again sorry I can keep my eye out now for that
admins cant be active on every server at everytime of the day which is why we have reports.I'd love to become an admin for Skial. For one I love the comunnity as chaotic as it is! and I'd love to contribute more to it than just donating! I would mainly be active on the Zombie Escape servers as an admin. As they don't have very active moderation usually.
Retracting my +1 to a -1. Your reports have stagnated and you have clearly regressed by refusing to report rulebreakers.+1 they've definitely improved since creating this application
Seems to me that LizzieSteph saw that there was inappropriate behavior and handled it by informing those on the server that this kind of behavior was not okay. Not every action needs to be a report for it to be a good action. Developing relationships through leadership to produce a positive outcome is totally valid and actually a very good style for server administration. Discretion is part of being an Admin - Chat logs don't completely reproduce the context, and it makes total sense that this action was absolutely the correct one to make. I understand the need and desire for Admins to conform to a standard, however, it's important to remember that this application has been pending for a significant duration (5 months) and people have their own lives. Over scrutinizing and hyper analyzing their behavior over long periods of time more likely than not will produce inaccurate results and misguided conclusions.retracting my +1 due to failure to report voteabuse
ZOMBIE ESCAPE | US ██ 08/15/2023 - 05:15:31 PM LizzieSteph Nice slay dumbass lol
ZOMBIE ESCAPE | US ██ 08/15/2023 - 05:15:56 PM LizzieSteph I don't really care but don't make random joke votes like that lol
This was literally from just randomly popping in on ZE I was actually in server for that and wanted to see what she would do then applied silence to said player after she didnt report. Chat log is just evidence of acknowledgement of voteabuse and not reportingChat logs don't completely reproduce the context, and it makes total sense that this action was absolutely the correct one to make.
Voteabuse is a clear violation of the rules that needs to be addressed so people dont abuse the system throwing it into a cool down and when it is needed it cant be used. For someone applying for admin, ignoring someone breaking the rules is not a good sign as it can be viewed as favoritism.Discretion is part of being an Admin
This is what the report system is for Admins cant pop in and out of every server and there was def enough time to make a report as I had waited to give her the benefit of the doubt as she continued to playI understand the need and desire for Admins to conform to a standard, however, it's important to remember that this application has been pending for a significant duration (5 months) and people have their own lives.
Freedvoid's comment is essentially what im getting atAnother point I think people should understand is that there is a difference between the idea of leading (for the purposes of ZE) and the role of server administration. You can be great at helping players acclimate to new things, but maybe not so much at enforcing rules, reprimanding behavior, or presenting yourself properly. Same thing, vice versa. However, I do believe this person's efforts in trying to help the community are, at the very least, something to appreciate and something to consider. Again, the only thing holding them back is their maturity and actual reliability in adhering to their responsibilities.
With the additional context, your perspective makes more sense - I do stand by what I said in the sense that, it is a long period, and potentially 'nitpicking' over such a long period is not constructive. Did anyone else besides LizzieSteph in the server speak to the fact that that vote should not have occurred? And did anyone else in the server submit a report?This was literally from just randomly popping in on ZE I was actually in server for that and wanted to see what she would do then applied silence to said player after she didnt report. Chat log is just evidence of acknowledgement of voteabuse and not reporting
Voteabuse is a clear violation of the rules that needs to be addressed so people dont abuse the system throwing it into a cool down and when it is needed it cant be used. For someone applying for admin, ignoring someone breaking the rules is not a good sign as it can be viewed as favoritism.
This is what the report system is for Admins cant pop in and out of every server and there was def enough time to make a report as I had waited to give her the benefit of the doubt as she continued to play
Freedvoid's comment is essentially what im getting at
i actually popped into play ZE cuz i never do and i know it can be fun and happened to witness that. Well said thoughWith the additional context, your perspective makes more sense - I do stand by what I said in the sense that, it is a long period, and potentially 'nitpicking' over such a long period is not constructive. Did anyone else besides LizzieSteph in the server speak to the fact that that vote should not have occurred? And did anyone else in the server submit a report?
I agree conceptually with Freevoid as well - If you (and Freevoid) think that the issue at hand is that this player may not effectively moderate, and be more lenient than is appropriate, that's a fair question to have. I think it would be helpful to know what @LizzieSteph thinks regarding whether or not they are capable of strictly moderating when necessary, and what changes they will or can make to work towards that.
At the same time Lord Dio - I don't think all actions require reports or admin actions for the server to be well administered. We may disagree on this, and that's okay, our styles are different.
I don't think it's an effective metric to rate someone's ability to be an admin based off on popping into servers to see if they will make a report or not when it is over such a long period of time. Lately, this metric has been used, in my opinion, as a way to derail an app, rather than to state anything constructively.
I appreciate your response, and that you provided insight into your reasoning. Hopefully the right person joins the team. Just as a side note - I think that the recent events (The two events bottiger and Stanley set up), and other notable instances in the ZE community development have been exciting. Having the right people there to administrate would be ideal.