why wont valve make all the arena maps into koth?

[Shiny Charizard]

demoman is highest DPS.

How? Sticky trap point blank? You forgot the whole it takes time to set the stickies down
Demoman DPS ideally is 200-, Heavy DPS ideally is 500+

 

[Maddo]

Demoman dominates koth.

 

[Commander]

Demoman does NOT have 500DPS...but he does indeed trash the hell out of KOTH, he's the only thing that can get a mass of Heavies off the point and in the meantime can throw stickies and nades everywhere making capping nearly impossible

 

[Giildy]

Every game mode would work with heavy rush. Highest DPS and highest health in the game.



So a finite amount of health = a downside specifically to heavy? Even if that IS true, Heavy Medic rush = instant win.

just to be clear the weapon with the highest dps in the game is the medic's primary... that's why the medic bots in nearly empty servers are such bullshit.

 

[Conan O'Fryin']

just to be clear the weapon with the highest dps in the game is the medic's primary... that's why the medic bots in nearly empty servers are such bullshit.

Better than the Minigun? No, I don't think so. Let's do a comparison

Minigun:

Syringe Gun:

 

[Giildy]

I swear to god somewhere there is a formula that factors in the spinup time into damage dealt over time, and what the syring gun does over time. If I find it I'll bring it over. hopefully someone will be magic and find it for me. :P

 

[Maddo]

Its in tf2 wiki....

bonesaw left - minigun right

 

[Giildy]

Its in tf2 wiki....

bonesaw left - minigun right

so what's the formula for calculating in spin up time into damage over time if there is no damage spread?

 

[Staying_Classy]

Most koth maps are designed terribly. I would love to see koth_offblast. Very underrated map.

 

[Maddo]

so what's the formula for calculating in spin up time into damage over time if there is no damage spread?

Well, i'm naff at math, but something like this
minigun 1st second, take off 0.87sec's for wind up, leaves 0.23 sec's of firing.. . 540/0.23secs (max damage) = 124 damage
bonesaw max damage in first second = 120 (assuming no firing time)
but bonesaw is going to do this damage almost every hit, whereas minigun is mostly going to be doing half the damage i stated due to distance from target.

All in all though, I would say the weapon with the most dps is the spy's knife.

 

[DeadHerald]

Vavle doesn't make maps anymore. It lets the community do it at the fraction of the price to keep a full team of coders on staff.

 

[Tomatketchup]

Vavle doesn't make maps anymore. It lets the community do it at the fraction of the price to keep a full team of coders on staff.

To be honest, the mapmakers do get money and a nice note in any future CV, not to mention they did something they found enjoyable (hopefully). It's a win-win situation.

 

[DeadHerald]

To be honest, the mapmakers do get money and a nice note in any future CV, not to mention they did something they found enjoyable (hopefully). It's a win-win situation.

You're supposed to laugh at the joke, not criticize the sub-text of the setup line.

 

[Tomatketchup]

You're supposed to laugh at the joke, not criticize the sub-text of the setup line.

 

[Conan O'Fryin']

Well, i'm naff at math, but something like this
minigun 1st second, take off 0.87sec's for wind up, leaves 0.23 sec's of firing.. . 540/0.23secs (max damage) = 124 damage
bonesaw max damage in first second = 120 (assuming no firing time)
but bonesaw is going to do this damage almost every hit, whereas minigun is mostly going to be doing half the damage i stated due to distance from target.

1. That's in one second though, not per second. The Heavy does not unwind the Minigun after every second

2. Uh, if the Heavy is going to do half due to damage fall off, what's stopping that from happening to the Medic

 

[This Name Is False]

Payload attacking and KOTH are both broken in the way that once you get 6 or more Heavies on the point or cart theres no way to get them off without a great deal of coordination

He has a point. Where in TF2 is there coordination?

 

[Commander]

Highlander, 6v6, and between friends.

 

[JonJon]

It Been Alot Month Now
Where the Fuck is ''Meet The Pyro'' Trailer

 

[Tomatketchup]

It Been Month Now
Where the Fuck is ''Meet The Pyro'' Trailer

I feel the "Confusing" rating for Jonathan is moot but really...

 

[JonJon]

and i Feel confusing too with that Fucking Scary Man Laughing his ass off 00___00