what do you think about competitive matchmaking?

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I think its dumb.

Not matchmaking in itself is dumb, rather Valve giving the TF2 community servers a giant "fuck you" yet again.

Quickplay dealt a devastating blow to community servers and even major places like Skial and lotus have been been hit very hard by it. Many other servers have been shut down or are as dead as doornails because of it and entire custom game modes have completely died because of it. Now match making is going to make that even worse. It's going to turn into CS:GO where its 98% Valve servers.

TF2 and most multiplayer Source games in general has a amazing modding community that created many custom game modes and custom maps (some which later became very popular official maps), meanwhile Valve is continually buttfucking community servers and all those awesome maps and mods people made with quickplay and match making and no one seems to give a damn anymore.
 
Meowcenary said:
I think its dumb.

Not matchmaking in itself is dumb, rather Valve giving the TF2 community servers a giant "fuck you" yet again.

Quickplay dealt a devastating blow to community servers and even major places like Skial and lotus have been been hit very hard by it. Many other servers have been shut down or are as dead as doornails because of it and entire custom game modes have completely died because of it. Now match making is going to make that even worse. It's going to turn into CS:GO where its 98% Valve servers.

TF2 and most multiplayer Source games in general has a amazing modding community that created many custom game modes and custom maps (some which later became very popular official maps), meanwhile Valve is continually buttfucking community servers and all those awesome maps and mods people made with quickplay and match making and no one seems to give a damn anymore.
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You are implying that they are trying to get rid of community servers and such and replace them with their own for the money? I don't think this is the case. I highly doubt they are trying to get rid of the community because they recently added the taunt and map workshop, proving that they are aware and willing to support the community. By adding matchmaking, they are supporting one community while hurting another, but in their eyes, it is better. Not only will it bring them more money, but it will probably increase the player base much more then what it is now.
 
I kind of like the idea, but I don't at the same time. I enjoy TF2Center, and it would be sad to see it stamped out because Valve implemented their own gig. I think Valve waited too long to do something like this, before these communities were established. Now they look like assholes trampling over what's already been established by the players.
 
Maxwell said:
I kind of like the idea, but I don't at the same time. I enjoy TF2Center, and it would be sad to see it stamped out because Valve implemented their own gig. I think Valve waited too long to do something like this, before these communities were established. Now they look like assholes trampling over what's already been established by the players.
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Back in cs 1.6, I do believe that leagues such as ESEA and maybe CEVO were around even while counter strike had no in-game competitive mode. ESEA supports tf2 at the moment, and TF2Center will probably evolve into a free alternative. Possibly better servers, anti-cheat, team matchmaking and so on.
 
BO$$ said:
You are implying that they are trying to get rid of community servers and such and replace them with their own for the money? I don't think this is the case. I highly doubt they are trying to get rid of the community because they recently added the taunt and map workshop, proving that they are aware and willing to support the community. By adding matchmaking, they are supporting one community while hurting another, but in their eyes, it is better. Not only will it bring them more money, but it will probably increase the player base much more then what it is now.
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Valve is also the company that wanted to try out the paid mod system, and got extreme backlash from it. They also changed Quickplay to default to Valve servers, choking out many of my favorite smaller communities and putting a hurting on Skial. They remind me of many corporations that started with humble beginnings and made it big. They care, but they also care about raking in all that cash.
BO$$ said:
Back in cs 1.6, I do believe that leagues such as ESEA and maybe CEVO were around even while counter strike had no in-game competitive mode. ESEA supports tf2 at the moment, and TF2Center will probably evolve into a free alternative. Possibly better servers, anti-cheat, team matchmaking and so on.
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"free alternative" TF2 is already free silly. Valve will probably do everything TF2Center does if not more.
 
I meant free alternative to ESEA. You must pay for their service.

Valve does not do everything ESEA does for csgo. I don't see why tf2 would be any different.
 
BO$$ said:
You are implying that they are trying to get rid of community servers and such and replace them with their own for the money? I don't think this is the case. I highly doubt they are trying to get rid of the community because they recently added the taunt and map workshop, proving that they are aware and willing to support the community. By adding matchmaking, they are supporting one community while hurting another, but in their eyes, it is better. Not only will it bring them more money, but it will probably increase the player base much more then what it is now.
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I didn't say they were doing it for the money or that they're trying to remove the community. I'm saying they're making changes with little regard to what its doing to community servers. See: quickplay. Many servers shut down because of it, Skial and other major TF2 communities are suffering because of it too and its only getting worse and worse. That may not be their intention, but that is exactly what is happening.

The workshops are obviously not helping either.

If they cared to help the portion of the community they're killing off they would do some form of a reasonable compromise.
 
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