Warming back up to stock

[Jave]

Stock > Everything else.
With minor exceptions, i.e escape plan/sandvich.

This..

 

[Maddo]

In my opinion, Scout and Demo are the few true classes where all stock is the best. Solly needs the Escape Plan, Pyro needs the Degreaser and either Axtinguisher or Homewrecker, Engie needs Jag and Frontier Justice, Medic needs Blutsauger and Ubersaw, Sniper with the Jarate/Bushwacka combo, and Spy with the Amby and Dead Ringer.

Overdose > Blutsauger... I keep thinking about going to stock syringe, but find that the extra damage compared to the overdose is not as useful as the speed gained, which helps protect a built up uber charge.
Ubersaw is def best melee for medic though, the amount of hits you actualy use it for means the slower firing don't make a blind bit of difference, and 25% charge added is a huge bonus.

 

[SgtGiraffe]

@bold: SMG + Tribalman's Shiv. Personal defense and mid-range firepower + All the Spy tagging power of Jarate at the cost of dem minicrits.
@underline: The DR warrants a completely different approach as Spy, and is very often used as a crutch for noobs. Due to that loud ass decloak, the nearst Southern Hospitality Engie will rape you up the ass.

if u have the saharan spy set u can uncloak right behind them and they wouldnt not even know wat happen

 

[Ruelel]

if u have the saharan spy set u can uncloak right behind them and they wouldnt not even know wat happen

saharan set is shit. any intelligent player will destroy you.

 

[SgtGiraffe]

saharan set is shit. any intelligent player will destroy you.

cant any intelligent player kill any spy?

with any set or loadout

 

[Ruelel]

scout stock is fine.
soldier stock IS fine but the escape plan is good.
pyro stock is awful. puff n sting with degreaser + axtinguisher or pick up a backburner.
demo stock is fine swap out the bottle for a paintrain on cp maps.
heavy stock is fine. gru might be good but the minicrits you get from it now is a iffy thing for me.
engy stock is fine.
medic stock is fine. you could swap out the syringe gun for the overdose and the bonesaw for a vitasaw or ubersaw.
sniper stock is completely fine. swapping the smg and kukri out for a jarate bushwacka is a nice thing to do.
spy stock is best spy.

 

[Ruelel]

cant any intelligent player kill any spy?

with any set or loadout

yes. but saharan spies are even easier.

 

[SgtGiraffe]

yes. but saharan spies are even easier.

that is opinion that will be respected just like my opinion about the Saharan spy should

 

[Perseus Dash Jackson]

Re: Scout Stock: If I had the Mad Milk, I'd use it a lot. Baby Face's Blaster also looks good, and when I want to mess around/cap the intel on 2fort I use FaN. :P

 

[Ruelel]

that is opinion that will be respected just like my opinion about the Saharan spy should

but 90% of the time saharan spies die before good spies because they have to use the awful set knife

 

[Ruelel]

Re: Scout Stock: If I had the Mad Milk, I'd use it a lot. Baby Face's Blaster also looks good, and when I want to mess around/cap the intel on 2fort I use FaN. :p

baby face blaster is bad. you're suppose to play the floor is lava when you play scout and mad milk is decent
wouldn't swap the pistol for it tho.