Declined Vs. Saxton Hale nerf suggestion - Baby Face's Blaster

[Ryulise]

this gun is VERY annoying in VSH (and I know this as I have used the gun in the gamemode) and let's you nearly outrun Hale. worst of all, it's widely used and lots of people manage to survive. all I request is a speed or damage nerf.

 

[Sheev_Palpatine]

Personally I would rather have it disabled, but a nerf would be great too. It's only annoying because it stalls out the round and delays the enevitable.

 

[Ruelel]

if its a big enough problem then it should just be banned

 

[Nothing_Much]

Just cap the point you fucking idiots.

 

[Defibyoulater]

The problem is that baby face scouts are generally the last man standing, and not only can you out run a hale, but when you have mini-crits or last player crits, you have huge stopping power. If a hale tries to jump at you, you can stop him mid way and disorientate his landing/tracking.

Though BBF scouts are difficult to kill, but not impossible.
And you can always rage.

 

[Sheev_Palpatine]

Just cap the point you fucking idiots.

Try telling that to a Hale who has five other people asking them to cap the point but no, they just have to try to kill the last bfb scout and waste several minutes flailing around.

 

[Nothing_Much]

Try telling that to a Hale who has five other people asking them to cap the point but no, they just have to try to kill the last bfb scout and waste several minutes flailing around.

Then kick him, that's griefing I'm sure.

 

[Ruelel]

or just ban the unlock

 

[Nothing_Much]

or just ban the unlock

Or.. get an admin and kick that guy, that should count as griefing as he's a hindrance to the *progression* of the game, correct?

 

[Sheev_Palpatine]

Or.. get an admin and kick that guy, that should count as griefing as he's a hindrance to the *progression* of the game, correct?

Or just block the weapon so we don't have to keep dragging admins in to kick people.

 

[Nothing_Much]

Or just block the weapon so we don't have to keep dragging admins in to kick people.

Or make the admins do their jobs?

 

[Meowcenary]

Yeah it can get a bit silly. They're certainly not impossible to kill, but they needlessly drag on the round. The majority of the time when hale is going up against a BFB scout the scout loses but drags out the round for a very long time.

Heck, when I get hale and only have some BFB scouts left I just cap the point because I know people want to play instead of seeing me chase down 2 scouts for literally 6+ minutes

 

[Ruelel]

Or make the admins do their jobs?

admins cant be on 24/7 to kick people

 

[Meowcenary]

Or make the admins do their jobs?

It's not solely a problem of admins having to enforce an extra rule. Players want to play and enjoy their game instead of spending time reporting some guy for breaking the rules and I don't blame them. If someone joins a VSH server and saw some Hale chasing down a BFB scout for a good 5+ minutes when the BFB is not allowed they'd probably rather join a different server than have to find an admin to come check it out and / or take the time to gather the necessary evidence to make a report.

In the end its much more convenient for the players to block the weapon entirely than have to make them find an admin or make a report.

 

[Renegade]

You do realize you could just cap the point and win the round that way, right? I'm pretty sure there's a reason why Hale has the ability to cap the point. If having to chase a scout with the weapon is a problem, then just cap and win. Or cap until the scout gets close enough and rage so you can hit the damn scout and knock his head off.

 

[Meowcenary]

You do realize you could just cap the point and win the round that way, right? I'm pretty sure there's a reason why Hale has the ability to cap the point. If having to chase a scout with the weapon is a problem, then just cap and win. Or cap until the scout gets close enough and rage so you can hit the damn scout and knock his head off.

From what I've seen most hales don't like capping. The players generally consider it to be "nooby", its not uncommon to see hale getting berated for capping a point even if he's going up against someone who is delaying the round. The majority of the times where the last guy is a BFB scout hale generally goes for the scout instead of capping, or they eventually give up trying to kill the scout and cap.

Plus some maps don't have a capture point at all, or at least one that is accessible

 

[Old Boy NP]

From what I've seen most hales don't like capping. The players generally consider it to be "nooby", its not uncommon to see hale getting berated for capping a point even if he's going up against someone who is delaying the round. The majority of the times where the last guy is a BFB scout hale generally goes for the scout instead of capping, or they eventually give up trying to kill the scout and cap.

Plus some maps don't have a capture point at all, or at least one that is accessible

^ I totally agree with this. The most of players consider it a coward act,even if Hale has all the reason to do it,and is not strange see a capper get vote slayed by a ragekid. And is not funny get vote slayed or vote banned by a kid 'cause you prefer cap the point and not run & jump around for the rest of your life trying to kill a scout.

And try to think a BFB scout as last player against a Hale with a lot of health,no cap point and 5 or more min to the end of the round. Is just annoying watch that scout run for the map without even aim at Hale.

The BFB is just an annoying weapon on vsh,good only to waste time & the scout slot. There are a lot of good players how wanna play scout and try to stomp Hale but they can't,'cause a random rat want to "play" as runner. I've seen a lot of player join scout only to use the BFB and not all of them are new in vsh,there are players how use it only for annoying the people in the server and not for kill Hale.

In my opinion it would be better remove the weapon form the vsh mode.

 

[Chance]

Baby Face Scouts are pretty annoying but not impossible to catch up with *unless they can juke* I'm fine with capping the point though because I like to hear ppl get mad over it.

 

[Renegade]

From what I've seen most hales don't like capping. The players generally consider it to be "nooby", its not uncommon to see hale getting berated for capping a point even if he's going up against someone who is delaying the round. The majority of the times where the last guy is a BFB scout hale generally goes for the scout instead of capping, or they eventually give up trying to kill the scout and cap.

Plus some maps don't have a capture point at all, or at least one that is accessible

Then that's their problem. If there's one player left and that red player is running away to avoid getting killed, then Hale should cap. Who the hell cares if people think it's cowardly. I'd think that the red player running away is more cowardly than Hale capping and winning. It's really not that hard to just cap and get it over with. The point of Hale is to survive but delaying the round by running away is a huge waste of time. Hale should just cap and whoever calls it "nooby" or "cowardly" is an idiot. The point is there for a reason.

 

[shoooooooooooooooo]

Then kick him, that's griefing I'm sure.

only 2 people can be alive to capture the point.

who says there aren't multiple scouts using this weapon? some vsh maps don't even have the point enabled.
and on hhh you cannot super jump making it nearly impossible to kill anyone using this weapon.