Turmoil in Turkey
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Vidanjor
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Indeed it is, and government is still trying to stamp us as terrorists, i was there, at first the activists were peaceful. Until police started to throw tear gas and compressed water at us for no reason. And then they pinned people and beat them with batons. The thing is retarded cops injured many innocent people just passing by aswell. Two days after the riot started prime minister ran away from country like a coward. When he returned he said things like "We will speak with your language too if you really want it, We holding 100000 people against you, don't make me let them". This guy is a fuckin dictator, thinks he is king or as we say "sultan". Yet still some retarded people have still find sympathy for him within themselves.
Long story short: This summer is fucked up for me...
Long story short: This summer is fucked up for me...
There are rumbles of this all over Europe, people are really getting sick of being pushed around by people in charge.
The next revolution will not be long in coming, it will put an end to the rich/poor void and allow freedom to live.
In Europe sure but not in America. The desire for a revolution here is low for the most part aside from the rare hot spots. Even then the places where the call for one is highest, those people have no idea where to even begin. Chances are it will take something insanely mind boggling to make the people stand up, but our government isn't that stupid.. not yet.
I'm living in Turkey also it is fun how our media doesn't talks about that.
You sound like Lenin in 1918. The result? One of the biggest countries in the world had been under communists' regime for 72 years and went to shit during this time.
Not for you only. Ukrainians and Russians can't get to your all-inclusive resorts either...
Seems like a huge stretch in my opinion
Even if a revolution did happen (most of which are just riots that don't get very far realistically speaking) the majority of 'new' governments formed by revolutions usually go to shit in time.
It all sounds good in concept but when things start to come together its a completely different story. Pshycho's lenin thing for example
America is lucky in the fact that it has the constitution. I just wish that UK would become the 53rd state and fuck Europe off. Those guys that signed that declaration, gave you all a freedom that is unequalled in the world. The only problems you have are the security agencies becoming autonomous and evolving into a self serving machine. Europe doesn't have the same liberties, we are basically controlled by our governments and those who are in power. UK is at a point where there is revolution starting at a political level, the conservative party are truly destroying our country, and a call for a general election has been made. We the people of England want an end to the banks running our country. We gave like 10billion to bail out banks (which are just another business) and we still have people living on the streets, elderly dying in winter through hyperthermia, half a million people regularly using foodbanks. at the moment it is all transgressing on a political plateau, but if that fails we will have no choice but to take action.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. that rings as true here as in the USA.
hXcjedders
Australian Skial God
Yeah it would piss her off quite a bit, but then again its all the same bloodline in charge, well it was; up until Obama ^^ still cant figure him out, but everything seems to be good from him.
hXcjedders
Australian Skial God
Honestly, I think he/his administration is one of the worst ever. Bush was bad, and Obama just said LELELEL LETS JUST DO WHAT THE LAST GUY DID. America is becoming increasingly authoritarion, but the layers of deceit are being pulled back. I mean fuck, he's kind of an asshole in my opinion. I never hated the guy up until recently.
"I will consider changing our monitoring tactics if public discussion leads to that point." Yes, because Americans need to tell you not to spy on them.
That's what I was referring to when I said "The only problems you have are the security agencies becoming autonomous and evolving into a self serving machine."
Long has it been rumoured that the NSA, CIA etc. have been working under their own momentum as some sort of big brother, last few days with the whistle blowing have exposed it to everyone.. the tinfoil hat brigade have smug grins on their faces.. (told ya so :P )
hXcjedders
Australian Skial God
My friend was in the military and has mentioned to me that the CIA is more or less Autonomous and does what it wants. Then again, what else can you expect from a spy agency? The FBI can catch em and prosecute them for wrongdoing, but the CIA is part of the government, so it knows what to avoid and how to cover things up and has connections.
I tell ya, Europe is starting on a new journey, Turkey could well be the start of it all, people are not going to take shit anymore. those in America reading this cant feel the vibe that is rising, but it really is rising in Europe and things are going to change. its a pot coming to the boil...
Unfortunately America is in a unique position that no other country can claim to be in. We are the most hated yet we are also the most loved. Several countries owe their existence and freedoms to us yet some countries owe their terrorism to us. Quite frankly the world would turn to shit if we stepped out and everyone knows it. That doesn't mean that I agree with us being the cops of the world. However if we didn't do it, who would? Who else would stand up for another country? Who else is going to send their people to die in order to protect that little country most of us never heard of until it was on CNN? I can't be that naive, surely someone would do it, but who?
There is a documentary called 'The World Without US" - go watch it. Most countries in Europe say they won't do anything, that's why we do it. Remember eastern Europe in the 90s? We cleaned that up.. not their neighbors. Twice. I honestly think our compassion for everyone who isn't us, along with our hatred for ourselves, makes us revolution proof. America will be a two party system until the end of time. It will never change. You have to remember there are loopholes in place which allow our own military to be ordered into our streets to silence a revolution. The only question is who will follow those orders? A true soldier knows that the military is in place to combat the enemies of the state, not to combat the people it answers to.
Are we corrupt? Damn straight we are, a fucking blindfolded baboon could tell you that. Would it be great for Washington to just mystically appear from the past and kick some corrupt bureaucracy ass? Yeah, I'd sell tickets to that show. Yet when you add up all of the corruption and all the war and all of the stupid laws.. it just doesn't equal out to revolution and it never will.