Pardoned TF2 Appeal: eeble

[eeble]

Link to your ban from here https://www.skial.com/sourcebans/
Please click on Ban List or Comm List and click advanced search.
https://www.skial.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&advSearch=[U:1:99820919]&advType=steamid&Submit

Why should you be unbanned?
Why should you be unbanned?

my method for zmaining is legal and has no existing precedence for punishment as i follow the established rules. i do not kill myself after auto infect and find ways to join zombies before the autoinfect happens or force myself to be autoinfected, preventing zombies from gaining an unfair advantage.

i also do not seek to grief or ruin anybody elses fun, i just find the zombie side of the gamemode to be a lot more fun most of the time and prefer to play the opposite half of the gamemode

demo proof of the games mentioned in the report i was banned for that i use methods to zmain without dying after autoinfect:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sarh4b6w0gr5zvk/2023-03-29_21-30-15.dem?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rpvmu37muernsfi/2023-03-29_21-07-21.dem?dl=0

i am happy to work with any reviewers to provide more evidence of my innocence :B

 

[Dr. K]

Hello,
Zmaining is not allowed. There is no legal way of zmaining if you’re doing it intentionally. Players want to be able to finish maps and not have the run killed every time.

I’m willing to reduce or pardon your ban if you agree to stop zmaining.

 

[eeble]

im sorry but zmaining in the ways i have shown through demos (ensuring i become a zombie before or with autoinfect) is completely allowed.

if you wish, i can share the demos of every single game ive played this last month (and at the same time, appeal the unjust ban i received at the start of this month, also issued by you) showing that i have been doing it completely within the realms of the rules, which have recently been amended to clarify the official stance on zmaining: https://www.skial.com/threads/server-rules.136/

 

[Dr. K]

This game mode is not built around players wanting to play as zombies. The whole goal of playing as a zombie is to kill the human team so the "zombie" can play as a human again.
The goal is to escape the zombies and complete the stages and maps.
If we see a big group of humans defending themselves, and one guy gets himself killed on purpose in the middle of the group to kill everybody, then we won't hesitate to ban that person for zmaining.


Stop turning yourself into a zombie to kill the humans after auto-infektion. The maps are already hard enough with a few zombies. I know you like to play as a zombie, but no.
I'll remove the ban for you though, and I hope fully you'll start playing as a human trying to escape the zombies.

Also, griefing is not limited to only the examples provided. Depending in the situation, there are others things not listed in the examples that can also count as griefing.