So what grinds your gears?

[Antamania]

I guess I should say is that I hate playing in pubs where the pyro gets to the snipers. I can't do anything about them if I can't quickscope them, and I can't quickscope them if they're too close. You know what's even better? Degreaser+reserver+axtinguisher
Even more instant death

Is it fair for you to be able to kill any close range class as a sniper if they get to you? You destroy them at long, you should be weak close.

Anyway though this argument isn't worth having. I just think if you're having trouble killing pyros you really aren't that good of a player.

 

[Avenger]

Is it fair for you to be able to kill any close range class as a sniper if they get to you? You destroy them at long, you should be weak close.

My sniper loadout is intended to support the team. I've got my piss and my shiv to spycheck/put out fire, and my rifle is only fast enough to kill key targets
I end up relying on ten year olds that are more concerned about everything but supporting me in return

 

[Blade D_Hero]

My sniper loadout is intended to support the team. I've got my piss and my shiv to spycheck/put out fire, and my rifle is only fast enough to kill key targets
I end up relying on ten year olds that are more concerned about everything but supporting me in return

But Avegner I always extinguish you when you are of flames. I am best Pybro.

 

[sboles]

Is it fair for you to be able to kill any close range class as a sniper if they get to you? You destroy them at long, you should be weak close.

Anyway though this argument isn't worth having. I just think if you're having trouble killing pyros you really aren't that good of a player.

Take it to the reply in unmod thread please.

EDIT: I'm trying to not ruin this thread, fuck me right?

 

[Antamania]

My sniper loadout is intended to support the team. I've got my piss and my shiv to spycheck/put out fire, and my rifle is only fast enough to kill key targets
I end up relying on ten year olds that are more concerned about everything but supporting me in return

Its a team game..can't help if your team is retarded. I'm just saying that a pyro SHOULD be fairly able to annihilate a sniper up close simply because they are helpless against him at any other range.

 

[staticvoid]

I guess I should say is that I hate playing in pubs where the pyro gets to the snipers. I can't do anything about them if I can't quickscope them, and I can't quickscope them if they're too close. You know what's even better? Degreaser+reserver+axtinguisher
Even more instant death

they don't even have to use fire, i hate that set like no tomorrow.

Because I couldnt do that with just about any other class on any server...are you really trying to back your argument by someone sitting infront of a spawn that idiots keep running out of? Any class is good against stupid players.

You're defending a very hated class.
I know you enjoy to play pyro like there's no tomorrow, however, let's think about the game balance and how it works.
Scout, counters demo and snipers
Soldier, counters scout, engineer, and meh against most classes
pyro, counters scout, soldier, demo, sometimes heavy, engineer if intelligent, sniper, and spy
demo, counters soldier, engineer, heavy
and so on....

It works well against the majority of the classes in TF2, and is undoubtedly the easiest class to pick up on in the game. How can you continue to argue when people who have been playing the class for years even admit to it being a dumb class and being way to easy to pick up on? Right now ant, it's you versus the majority of TF2's dying community.

If you would like to continue this autistic little argument, please do so in unmod so that you don't fill the regular forums with stupidity.
Thank you.

 

[Antamania]

Take it to the reply in unmod thread please.

No, a debate is when two sides are willing to engage on a mature level, with intelligent responses. Reply on unmod to what, someone using a video of some kid holding M1 down in a pub outside of a spawn that idiots keep running into as an argument? Not worth my time.

 

[Avenger]

Summing it all up in one phrase
Pyro: Easy to learn but hard to master

 

[Antamania]

they don't even have to use fire, i hate that set like no tomorrow.


You're defending a very hated class.
I know you enjoy to play pyro like there's no tomorrow, however, let's think about the game balance and how it works.
Scout, counters demo and snipers
Soldier, counters scout, engineer, and meh against most classes
pyro, counters scout, soldier, demo, sometimes heavy, engineer if intelligent, sniper, and spy
demo, counters soldier, engineer, heavy
and so on....

It works well against the majority of the classes in TF2, and is undoubtedly the easiest class to pick up on in the game. How can you continue to argue when people who have been playing the class for years even admit to it being a dumb class and being way to easy to pick up on? Right now ant, it's you versus the majority of TF2's dying community.

If you would like to continue this autistic little argument, please do so in unmod so that you don't fill the regular forums with stupidity.
Thank you.

I lost interest in this argument a while ago, but if I hadn't...I lost it at the part you said pyro counters heavy. Carry on gents.

As for you calling me an autist lol, you aren't even worth arguing with. Just going to ignore you so I don't have to read anymore of your drivel in other threads. I enjoy a debate, but only with mature people..you aren't mature.

 

[sboles]

No, a debate is when two sides are willing to engage on a mature level, with intelligent responses. Reply on unmod to what, someone using a video of some kid holding M1 down in a pub outside of a spawn that idiots keep running into as an argument? Not worth my time.

I never said debate?
If you're gonna have an argument, or what ever you want to call it, don't post it in this thread.

 

[Antamania]

I never said debate?
If you're gonna have an argument, or what ever you want to call it, don't post it in this thread.

It's a forum mate, when someone insults your class and further goes on to insult you, you tend to respond. It's over now though...but you can't sit there bashing on a class that you don't play and expect someone who plays it to not open their mouth when something stupid is said.

 

[Morbuzka]

People who complain about every technique possible in TF2.
They complain about W+M1, they complain about M1+Q+M1, there's fucking nothing else for me to do unless I run at you with a shotgun.

 

[staticvoid]

No, a debate is when two sides are willing to engage on a mature level

Oh my god the maturity level is seeping through the sides.

with intelligent responses. Reply on unmod to what, someone using a video of some kid holding M1 down in a pub outside of a spawn that idiots keep running into as an argument? Not worth my time.

have you not read the other valid points given by other people?

 

[staticvoid]

People who complain about every technique possible in TF2.
They complain about W+M1, they complain about M1+Q+M1, there's fucking nothing else for me to do unless I run at you with a shotgun.

i love shotgun pyros. People underrate the shotgun so much. It has a higher DPS than the flare gun.

 

[Party Chocobo]

Pyro can easily fuck a Scout in close range/tight areas. And if they hit you even with only a flare, say goodbye to half of your health. But when my Scatters spread isn't being a cunt they're pretty easy to handle.

 

[Antamania]

Pyro can easily fuck a Scout in close range/tight areas. And if they hit you even with only a flare, say goodbye to half of your health. But when my Scatters spread isn't being a cunt they're pretty easy to handle.

That my friend is what we call a soft counter.

 

[Blade D_Hero]

I know you enjoy to play pyro like there's no tomorrow, however, let's think about the game balance and how it works.
Scout, counters demo and snipers
Soldier, counters scout, engineer, and meh against most classes
pyro, counters scout, soldier, demo, sometimes heavy, engineer if intelligent, sniper, and spy
demo, counters soldier, engineer, heavy
and so on....

Pyro counters scout unless he runs shortstop, then he can out-damage you in a heartbeat.
All soldier has to do is be a little inconsistent with his rockets and then airblasting becomes a reflex rather than timing.
If a demo runs stickies or even loch and load you're basically screwed.
All engie has to do is stick behind his buildings.
Lol heavy.
Medic doesn't really suffer from afterburn because of the healing bonus and all he has to do is get a meat-shield to help him out.
Pyro only counters Sniper if he gets the jump on him, in any other situation you're dead.
Pyro counters Spy.

So Pyro is basically only a "hard-counter" for two classes. Not really much if you ask me.

 

[Meowcenary]

"OH BOY A MINI SENTRY ON HIGHTOWER? WE CAN'T HAVE THAT NOW CAN WE?
/votemenu"

 

[staticvoid]

"OH BOY A MINI SENTRY ON HIGHTOWER? WE CAN'T HAVE THAT NOW CAN WE?
/votemenu"

Let me tell you of the joys of the direct hit. Absolute savior against them, and it's generally a fun weapon to use against the jumpers.

I do admit to building a level 3 sentry and putting it on the hightower. IDK wtf the other team was doing, but it took them an hour to destroy it.
I had two votes called on me during this period

 

[DaivdBaekr]

• Darwin's Danger Shield
• Dead Ringer when used to tank damage
• Kritzdemo pairs
• Sandman/Guillotine Scouts
• Demoknights who whine that no one will melee-fight them