Declined Replace vsh_cinema or create a 24/7 server with it

[fibsh]

Cinema is one of the worst maps in the cycle on VSH, and it's annoying knowing when it pops up, the regulars are gonna shout at the top of their lungs like a preschool out of recess, hollering "Cinema guishs :D, F2 for cinema!!!" It's just a map that all the players who care about the now useless rank system to farm points through telefrags. It's not fun, the map is abused like no tomorrow, and it's no fun knowing that it's ALWAYS gonna be picked, along with the people who will scream into their microphone like a child screaming over wanting a lollipop from the candy store to their irritated parent who said "no" already just to extend the map. Already having to bare 30 minutes is bad, and me and quite a few of others are sick of the one map that everyone else that cares enough for their internet point of a gold star to reach rank #1 is unbearably annoying and probably has a dysfunctional brain so tightly squeezed by rubber bands that its grown a tumor that only knows cinema-brainrot, as they've lost all other forms of any remote human intelligence.

I'm not planning on giving up, so PLEASE remove cinema and replace it, even if it means having a 24/7 of cinema or something.

 

[s9491]

"The regulars get so excited"

"It always gets picked"

"It gets extended"


You really know how to make a map removal argument to Bottiger. 🤣 This is mango trolling us, right?

 

[Whurr]

as long as the tumor that is rank exists in vsh, poorly designed, heavily red-sided maps will remain in rotation because people for some reason care about their precious rank. and guess what helps them farm rank without having to play hale? heavily red-sided maps.

 

[Bottiger]

The argument that cinema is picked only because it is red sided was already debunked. There are 5 other maps with even lower boss win rates than cinema and no one ever complains about them.

0.4054	vsh_cinema_b6
0.3996	vsh_abandoned_warehouse_se1
0.3911	vsh_urban_works_hdr
0.3839	vsh_egyptyspot_reworked_b2c
0.3781	vsh_military_area_se6
0.3511	vsh_dust_showdown_deluxe_r1

 

[fibsh]

The argument that cinema is picked only because it is red sided was already debunked. There are 5 other maps with even lower boss win rates than cinema and no one ever complains about them.

0.4054	vsh_cinema_b6
0.3996	vsh_abandoned_warehouse_se1
0.3911	vsh_urban_works_hdr
0.3839	vsh_egyptyspot_reworked_b2c
0.3781	vsh_military_area_se6
0.3511	vsh_dust_showdown_deluxe_r1

I wouldn't mind if these maps were adjusted to have more fairness or even completely removed replaced with a map of the same structure or same quality. Feel there should be more beginner maps than maps that absolutely destroy someone's fun and enjoyment. Cinema is abused with telefrags, military has too many areas for Engineers to set up in crowds while Soldiers use the overly convenient ammo and HP, dust showdown... way too big... and can't really speak on the rest because I'm assuming they're Sniper / Engie oriented or have flaws I haven't been able to notice directly.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, Whurr and others are aware that the "funny" room is abused, and its just a chase of cat and duck with very unfun and unpredictable spots. Not much balanced about going into a room that you'll be teleported into, with seconds to react. This isn't even about win rate, this is about players obviously abusing the useless rank system, and any logical person KNOWS that.