Improve Probex57's Admin App.

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I agree with your first three points, but as for the fourth I must point out it's hard to do if they use the mic.

And really, it's not an opinion. If you'd said "Enough admins on the time zone" I'd have agreed. But instead you said "enough in 2fort" and that's...um. Also I'm only arguing this because I'm pedantic and whatever.

Re: App I think we should look into Firekip's statement. Yelling at others about prices is definitely not a good quality in an admin, lol
 
Perseus Dash Jackson said:
Pointing out that not only is PsychoRealm wrong when he says admins play on the 2fort server but also wrong when implying that takes away from the admin application?
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Uh, I think most of what happened here is that if there are like... 5 admins on other servers why shouldn't they be called to the server with problems? It's not like 2fort has cooties or something.
 
PsychoRealm said:
Making long story short:
1. I think there are enough admins in Central time zone;
2. I play every night between 6 pm EDT - 11 pm EDT (1 hour of a difference with Central time zone) and haven't seen Probex on US22;
3. Admins are usually available within this time frame;
4. We also have a bunch of applications in "Considering" status for admins within this time zone;
5. In case of short-time offenders, you can collect the information and report an offender through forums;
6. It was my opinion and you don't have to agree with it. I respect your point of view but it's invalid for me.
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Well, I'm not going to disagree with you, the time zone is well covered, but that doesn't say when I'm online, like last night I was up until 3:30 AM, Mostly because I wake up late :p. I don't Usually play on US22, mostly I play on US7, LA1, NY1, Chicago1 or the Texas servers. I mostly join the 2forts that aren't full at the time, but I have donator now, so I may start playing on US22.
Perseus Dash Jackson said:
I agree with your first three points, but as for the fourth I must point out it's hard to do if they use the mic.

And really, it's not an opinion. If you'd said "Enough admins on the time zone" I'd have agreed. But instead you said "enough in 2fort" and that's...um. Also I'm only arguing this because I'm pedantic and whatever.

Re: App I think we should look into Firekip's statement. Yelling at others about prices is definitely not a good quality in an admin, lol
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I wasn't arguing about his price, I was protecting people from getting scammed out of their money, if you would like more info, PM I or Roman about the subject.
 
how would they be scammed of their money?
do you even understand what a scam is?
 
I personally didn't like your contribution to this thread: http://www.skial.com/threads/ruelel...or-his-help-and-he-kicked-me-when-i-bu.18489/
An admin should be able to identify obvious griefing.

Also, it isn't clear why do you apply to be an admin. Have you submitted any reports lately, pointed out people to the admin group who broke the rules? Did it happen multiple times that you couldn't find anyone who could deal with a problem on one of the servers you could have dealt with there?
 
Rvsz said:
I personally didn't like your contribution to this thread: http://www.skial.com/threads/ruelel...or-his-help-and-he-kicked-me-when-i-bu.18489/
An admin should be able to identify obvious griefing.

Also, it isn't clear why do you apply to be an admin. Have you submitted any reports lately, pointed out people to the admin group who broke the rules? Did it happen multiple times that you couldn't find anyone who could deal with a problem on one of the servers you could have dealt with there?
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I've reported people to roman and Rhi, I rarely make reports on the forums, because I have a lot of Admins on my friends list. There have been multiple occasions of cheating on the Deathrun server, and you wouldn't believe how many hacker and racists you would find on the 2fort servers. Why would anyone apply for admin? I want to help the community be a fun environment for anyone who comes to play, I want people to not have to worry about hackers or foal mouth individuals, I can only assume thats why the other admins became admins.
 
=ECC=probex57 said:
I wasn't arguing about his price, I was protecting people from getting scammed out of their money, if you would like more info, PM I or Roman about the subject.
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-1 for not using the proper channels. It could have been dealt with better. I'd rather you not do something out of line that was right either way and get the whole community in trouble.
 
Giildy said:
-1 for not using the proper channels. It could have been dealt with better. I'd rather you not do something out of line that was right either way and get the whole community in trouble.
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And I agree it could have been dealt with in a different manner.
 
=ECC=probex57 said:
And I agree it could have been dealt with in a different manner.
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We talked privately. From that conversation i don't feel reassured that you wouldn't do something that could get the community in hot water because it 'was the right thing to do"
 
Giildy said:
We talked privately. From that conversation i don't feel reassured that you wouldn't do something that could get the community in hot water because it 'was the right thing to do"
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I would definitely look before I do anything that might harm the community.
 
Rvsz said:
This still bothers me. How is THIS TELEPORT not griefing? Especially when it wasn't destroyed after complaints from teammates and a warning from an admin.
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There is no proof that he was doing it to harm his team in anyway, he had decided to put his teleporter where he thought it would do the most good and it was under his discretion whether to move it or not. If people knew where the teleporter would go they don't have to use it. As far as not listening to an admin that is against the rules, so thats where a rule was broken.
Edit: you can't tell someone how to play the game and then kick them for not playing it the way you want it played.
 
=ECC=probex57 said:
There is no proof that he was doing it to harm his team in anyway, he had decided to put his teleporter where he thought it would do the most good and it was under his discretion whether to move it or not. If people knew where the teleporter would go they don't have to use it. As far as not listening to an admin that is against the rules, so thats where a rule was broken.
Edit: you can't tell someone how to play the game and then kick them for not playing it the way you want it played.
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If the way me and my 2 friends want to play is by building a tele to a ledge and having them FaN them off the edge while I laugh, do you have any business stopping me?
 
Giildy said:
If the way me and my 2 friends want to play is by building a tele to a ledge and having them FaN them off the edge while I laugh, do you have any business stopping me?
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That's intentional griefing, and teletraping, his tele wasn't a trap and he wasn't trying to harm his teammates.
 
=ECC=probex57 said:
That's intentional griefing, and teletraping, his tele wasn't a trap and he wasn't trying to harm his teammates.
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:facepalm:so if you pootis a tele entrance on next to your spawn near point 2 and it sends you to point 5.
how is that not griefing? that's fucking with your team and being a mean ol goose
 
=ECC=probex57 said:
That's intentional griefing, and teletraping, his tele wasn't a trap and he wasn't trying to harm his teammates.
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If I build a backwards tele that forces my teammates to the beginning of the map or to a place NO ONE SHOULD BE from a forward spawn and won't even destroy it when an admin tells me to move it how would I not be intentionally harming my team?
 
DrRuelel said:
:facepalm:so if you pootis a tele entrance on next to your spawn near point 2 and it sends you to point 5.
how is that not griefing? that's fucking with your team and being a mean ol goose
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I just think that he was preparing for the future, instead of focusing on the now. If people knew where the tele went, then they would know not to use it until they were at point 5. Maybe I give people to much credit for having some form of intelligence, but I think everyone the same until proven otherwise.
Giildy said:
If I build a backwards tele that forces my teammates to the beginning of the map or to a place NO ONE SHOULD BE from a forward spawn and won't even destroy it when an admin tells me to move it how would I not be intentionally harming my team?
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I agree yes he should have done something when an admin told him to move it, but did he know Ruelel was an admin at the time, and how can you tell someone how to play the game? were not a communist community.
 
=ECC=probex57 said:
I just think that he was preparing for the future, instead of focusing on the now. If people knew where the tele went, then they would know not to use it until they were at point 5. Maybe I give people to much credit for having some form of intelligence, but I think everyone the same until proven otherwise.
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his shit would of been destroyed and his spawn would of been pushed back.
 
=ECC=probex57 said:
I just think that he was preparing for the future, instead of focusing on the now. If people knew where the tele went, then they would know not to use it until they were at point 5. Maybe I give people to much credit for having some form of intelligence, but I think everyone the same until proven otherwise.
I agree yes he should have done something when an admin told him to move it, but did he know Ruelel was an admin at the time, and how can you tell someone how to play the game? were not a communist community.
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... wat I don't... wat are you even saying.
 
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