Declined Lets make Thirdperson an AP perk

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DrMuttonstache said:
because it will keep players attracted to our servers because they love it so much
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No, that's what /hat is for.
That post was the dum-dum. What I'm trying to get across is that thirdperson might give players an unfair advantage, and that it would be stupid to only let regulars have access to it.
We aren't Nighteam.
 
Cylosis said:
No, that's what /hat is for.
That post was the dum-dum. What I'm trying to get across is that thirdperson might give players an unfair advantage, and that it would be stupid to only let regulars have access to it.
We aren't Nighteam.
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Like how Take said in the other thirdperson thread, thirdperson's supposed to be a sv_cheats 1 only thing and it being in Skial in the first place was basically bypassing that
 
=ECC=probex57 said:
All of my agree.
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RTD is only on idle. I kind of just made the suggestion and now I'm sort of agreeing with Cylosis. It goes down the slipperly slope of providing some sort of tactical advantage, BUT I would say you're not paying for it, you're earning it with AP and being loyal to our servers. Then again, that might cause new people to be turned off.
 
Cylosis said:
Hold the hell up. While the thirdperson mode's viability as something usable to gain a direct advantage over other players is still open to debate, you can't deny that having access to it does open the doors for tactics that may put you in a better position than other players.
I just woke up and my thoughts aren't really together, so excuse me if this is all mindless banter, but isn't tipping the scale in favor of donors or regulars exactly what we wanted to avoid? All of the existing perks are stictly cosmetic or convienient, but none of them actually grant the player an advantage other everyone else on the server.

While we're at it, why don't we make /rtd an AP thing?
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Well. If your a good player, then third person shouldnt really be a problem for you. Should it? +1 for me
 
takethepants said:
RTD is only on idle. I kind of just made the suggestion and now I'm sort of agreeing with Cylosis. It goes down the slipperly slope of providing some sort of tactical advantage, BUT I would say you're not paying for it, you're earning it with AP and being loyal to our servers. Then again, that might cause new people to be turned off.
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I didn't mean agree to the RTD thing :P But everything else was spot on.
 
Firekip said:
Like how Take said in the other thirdperson thread, thirdperson's supposed to be a sv_cheats 1 only thing and it being in Skial in the first place was basically bypassing that
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You shorten it to 'pants', not 'take'.

Also, AP isn't broken in the slightest. It functions exactly how it should- rewarding people who play exclusively on our servers for long periods of time with little shiny things to keep them interested. It's a phenominal system for keeping players coming back.

And rtd was sarcasm. I was just making an extreme example to keep everyone on the same train of thought.
 
Cylosis said:
Also, AP isn't broken in the slightest. It functions exactly how it should- rewarding people who play exclusively on our servers for long periods of time with little shiny things to keep them interested. It's a phenominal system for keeping players coming back.
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It's not broken due to it's initial function, it's broken because the AP algorithm fucks over players who have some kind of life.
 
Tomatketchup said:
It's not broken due to it's initial function, it's broken because the AP algorithm fucks over players who have some kind of life.
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You can't have your AP and your life, too.

Any rate, that's one of the reasons I like it so much. If someone is going to make the time investmet to play on our servers regularly anyway, what reason do we have not to reward them? If you don't play as often, you get some of the suckier perks, but you're still rewarded.
 
As long as thirdperson mode is in trade servers (so I can see my character's sexyness) but other than that I totally disagree with this Idea and cyclosis brings a huge point to the table. so -1
 
DrRuelel said:
just set it to 500 ap or something
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Regardless of how much you make it, making it a product of the AP system can look bad from a bystanders view. I'm not a fan of having it on "real" servers anyway, the ability to see around corners is a bit unfair.
 
OakyTree said:
Regardless of how much you make it, making it a product of the AP system can look bad from a bystanders view. I'm not a fan of having it on "real" servers anyway, the ability to see around corners is a bit unfair.
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ok
 
Isn't this the third thread regarding 3rd person today? First people want it gone, then reinstated, then made a donor perk, then made an AP perk.
 
Things that are removed for cheating won't be re-added for AP.

It is easy to get AP, seeding a server will result in an extremely high amount of AP per time spent. There are 5818 people with 1000 or more AP.

You just cannot get it by idling or being in the trade server because it is too easy to AFK there.

It is also more difficult to get it in Saxton Hale and Deathrun servers because we do not have a way to detect or prevent idlers there.
 
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